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Old 04-01-2011, 11:23 AM   #1
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Default Better Resume Monzon or Hagler

I saw an argument between two fans won said Haglers was way better and that Monzon didnt beat anybody

The guy contended that Benvenuti and Griffith were better middleweights than the Hearns and Duran Hagler fought and Napoles was on Leonards level for a welter

Who was more in the right, whose resume is better
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Old 04-01-2011, 11:48 AM   #2
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The aspiring wife beater was more right. Even though he doesn't exist and you're just making this event up, with subliminal suggestion, with an agenda to make posters defend Monzon's position and attack Hagler's
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Old 04-01-2011, 11:52 AM   #3
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For me Monzon has the better resume and is better H2H.

Both are ATG fighters and two of the most dominating MWs ever known.
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Old 04-01-2011, 11:52 AM   #4
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Did this happen in a dream?
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Old 04-01-2011, 12:09 PM   #5
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If it has to go one way it should be in the way of the Argentinean.
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Old 04-01-2011, 12:18 PM   #6
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The aspiring wife beater was more right. Even though he doesn't exist and you're just making this event up, with subliminal suggestion, with an agenda to make posters defend Monzon's position and attack Hagler's
Making it up why would I make it up I didnt wanna post the comments but ya made me do it

Monzon's quality of opponents was lesser than Hagler's. Most people recognize he got hosed against Leonard or else he would've gone out the same way and against better competition. The division record is immaterial. If the klitschko break joe louis' record, does that make them better fighters? not likely. Monzon didn't beat greats like Duran or Hearns. He's above Hopkins, but below Hagler [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] 1 year ago
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Monzon beat Emile Griffith, who is an all time great and was a better middleweight than Duran and Hearns. Check their record
José Napoles was in Leonard's class as a welterweight, easily top 5 of all time, and got destroyed by Monzon. Like it or not, Hagler had a dead close fight with Sugar Ray and lost the title
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Old 04-01-2011, 12:33 PM   #7
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For me Monzon has the better resume and is better H2H.

Both are ATG fighters and two of the most dominating MWs ever known.
That says it for me...and yes, Monzon and Hagler are the two greatest middleweight champions.
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Old 04-01-2011, 12:42 PM   #8
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For me Monzon has the better resume and is better H2H.

Both are ATG fighters and two of the most dominating MWs ever known.
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Old 04-01-2011, 03:36 PM   #9
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Hagler better resume and better H2H.


Both of their resumes are packed with fat Welterweights, but Hagler has the more accomplished fat Welterweights on his resume.


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Old 04-01-2011, 04:49 PM   #10
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Monzon. Resume and H2H I give him the edge.

They both beat a fair share of solid contenders, but Valdez was a better middleweight than anyone Hagler beat, and Benvenuti and Griffith were a superior duo at the weight than Hearns and Duran.
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Old 04-01-2011, 05:02 PM   #11
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Monzon. Both are top 30 all time, 4 & 5 at 160 lb behind Greb, SRR & Burley.
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Old 04-01-2011, 05:55 PM   #12
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Carlos Monzon

Jorge Fernandez x2
Jean Claude Bouttier x2
Tony Mundine
Denny Moyer
Tom Bogs
Emile Griffith
Tony Licata
Rodrigo Valdez x2
Jose Napoles
Tito Marshall
Nino Benvenuti
Bennie Briscoe




Marvin Hagler


Juan Domingo Roldan
Vito Antuofermo x2
Sugar Ray Seales x3
Bennie Briscoe
Kevin Finnegan x2
Alan Minter
Thomas Hearns
Mustafa Hamsho x2
Tony Sibson
Eugene Hart
Bobby Watts
Roberto Duran



Pretty close to be honest, but I have to give it to Hagler
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Old 04-01-2011, 06:13 PM   #13
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Hmm, Hagler is one of my top 4 fav fighters but I have to give this one to Monzon though it's close but clear. I haven't seen enough Monzon as many of his fights on youtube aren't in the best quality and I don't want to get his career set and find out I that I made a wrong choice. I want to see his Valdez fights so bad but the quality on yt is so crap. Both some of the best MW's though Robinson I feel should be ahead of them.
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Old 04-01-2011, 06:31 PM   #14
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I considered Monzon to be slightly better. Hagler was more spectacular, but Monzon just seemed the more consistent. Not much at all is in it though.
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Old 04-01-2011, 06:46 PM   #15
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I saw an argument between two fans won said Haglers was way better and that Monzon didnt beat anybody

The guy contended that Benvenuti and Griffith were better middleweights than the Hearns and Duran Hagler fought and Napoles was on Leonards level for a welter

Who was more in the right, whose resume is better
Hey..Benvenuti and Griffith WERE better middleweights than Hearns and Duran..and Napoles at his best..in terms of sheer ability WAS on the level of Leonard..
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