Better striker, Anderson Silva vs Ernesto Hoost?

[Valane]

Originally Posted by Boxmaster

yes
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There is a big difference between outstriking wrestlers and bjj guys and outstriking elite strikers.

Hoost and it isn't close.

[Saber120]

I still cant believe hoost got beaten by sapp.

I think it was only because hoost wanted to stand and trade with sapp. In the second fight all he had to do to win was move around the ring a bit as sapp couldnt hit a moving target for shit and he was owning sapp because of it. Then after he dropped sapp he got confident and decided to stand and trade again and payed for it. Otherwise hoost would have schooled sapp easily

[Rob_Floyd]

Originally Posted by monaroCountry

Bob Sapp is a monster who is actually quite agile on his feet, he would basically corner his opponents and lay them out. His punches are telegraphed and slow but it does pack a huge punch. Just the turbulence from Sapp's punches would knock Silva out.

He gasses very fast and is very slow and doesn't appear to even enjoy fighting anymore.

[monaroCountry]

Originally Posted by Rob_Floyd

He gasses very fast and is very slow and doesn't appear to even enjoy fighting anymore.

Silva's puny jabs wouldnt even make the man mountain blink.

[Will Cooling]

I tend to go with the principle thatthe best kickboxers kickbox and the best MMA fighters fight MMA. Now maybe as we enter an era where K-1 is so far behind the biggest MMA org that won't be the case in the future but it applies for Hoost and Silva. If Silva thought he could hang with kickboxers then why would he have gone to the trouble of having to learn jiu-jitsu and wrestling to compete in MMA?

[Stoo]

Originally Posted by monaroCountry

Silva's puny jabs wouldnt even make the man mountain blink.

A bit like Big Foot being wobbled by a LHW when Fedor couldnt even land cleanly with his 'elite' striking eh?

[monaroCountry]

Originally Posted by Stoo

A bit like Big Foot being wobbled by a LHW when Fedor couldnt even land cleanly with his 'elite' striking eh?

Same applies, A Silva is ineffective when someone bigger and taller limits the distance. It would be worse for A Silva though because he really doesnt have the same power behind his punches as Fedor. The problem is that A Silva has never fought a top level striker and only looks good because he is fighting mediocre strikers.

[Stoo]

Originally Posted by monaroCountry

Same applies, A Silva is ineffective when someone bigger and taller limits the distance. It would be worse for A Silva though because he really doesnt have the same power behind his punches as Fedor. The problem is that A Silva has never fought a top level striker and only looks good because he is fighting mediocre strikers.

Correct me if Im wrong but Fedor's last top level striker was Cro Cop? Remind me of the date again

[Valane]

If Silva was confident with his striking he would have tested himself in boxing or k-1. Simple as.

[Stoo]

He was willing but Dana White scotched the deal

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[chimba]

Originally Posted by monaroCountry

Same applies, A Silva is ineffective when someone bigger and taller limits the distance. It would be worse for A Silva though because he really doesnt have the same power behind his punches as Fedor. The problem is that A Silva has never fought a top level striker and only looks good because he is fighting mediocre strikers.

He has, Lee Murray is not to be ****ed with but a not yet prime Silva dominated him.

[monaroCountry]

Originally Posted by chimba

He has, Lee Murray is not to be ****ed with but a not yet prime Silva dominated him.

So your telling me that Lee Murray is a top class kickboxer or a top class boxer who outweighed Anderson Silva by 60 plus lbs?

Give me a break, the guy was just another can to pad Anderson Silva's record.

[Stoo]

Originally Posted by monaroCountry

So your telling me that Lee Murray is a top class kickboxer or a top class boxer who outweighed Anderson Silva by 60 plus lbs?

Give me a break, the guy was just another can to pad Anderson Silva's record.

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[chimba]

Originally Posted by monaroCountry

So your telling me that Lee Murray is a top class kickboxer or a top class boxer who outweighed Anderson Silva by 60 plus lbs?

Give me a break, the guy was just another can to pad Anderson Silva's record.

WTF are you on about. I already said Hoost would **** Silva up but unlike you I'm objective. Lee Murray is very good striker.

[Rob_Floyd]

Originally Posted by monaroCountry

top class kickboxer or a top class boxer who outweighed Anderson Silva by 60 plus lbs?

I hope we aren't still talking about Sapp.