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Old 04-04-2011, 06:00 AM   #31
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Top 4 are on lock. In that order too, well the first two are interchangable IMO.
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Old 04-04-2011, 06:13 AM   #32
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Manny's definitely above Hagler, I agree with Swarmer here. He's damn close to Whitaker as well, a solid win after the Mosley fight could be all that's necessary to bump him up to #1.
A win over Mosley does nothing for Manny at this juncture.
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Old 04-04-2011, 07:13 AM   #33
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I would have Calzaghe, Nunn and maybe Hamed (switcher), Moorer and Tarver in there
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Old 04-04-2011, 07:19 AM   #34
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I would have Calzaghe, Nunn and maybe Hamed (switcher), Moorer and Tarver in there
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Old 04-04-2011, 07:22 AM   #35
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I could see an argument for Calzaghe, maybe, but Nunn, Hamed, Moorer and Tarver? Come on, PP. Jesus Christ.
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Old 04-04-2011, 08:36 AM   #36
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Manny's definitely above Hagler, I agree with Swarmer here. He's damn close to Whitaker as well, a solid win after the Mosley fight could be all that's necessary to bump him up to #1.
I didn't say it either, but I have Whitaker up as well by mentally turning some of his bullshit robberies into wins(i refuse to call the chavez fight a draw, per se), even then i think it's close.

EDIT: Calzaghe was the only guy out of those I even mildly though about putting up there and he still doesn't really deserve it.
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Old 04-04-2011, 08:38 AM   #37
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Just watched Saldivar give Sugar Ramos a beating. Horrible referee.
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I could see an argument for Calzaghe, maybe, but Nunn, Hamed, Moorer and Tarver? Come on, PP. Jesus Christ.
The bottom 6 of that top10 aren't that strong and the fighters I listed are easily in their company and better in a few cases. If you lose the old time bias for a second you'll see Tiger Flowers is effectively the Tarver of his era, Lytell too feasted on old past it greats, there isn't anyone dominant or that impressive in the bottom 6
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...Oh...You mean you were serious about Tarver?
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...Oh...You mean you were serious about Tarver?
He beat Jones...therefore he's actually top 20 P4P...regardless of stance.
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He beat Jones...therefore he's actually top 20 P4P...regardless of stance.
He beat Greb...therefore he's actually top 20 P4P...regardless of stance - works for Tiger Flowers
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Where do we all rate Joppy, p4p? I have him rather high. Above Larry Holmes.
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Where do we all rate Joppy, p4p? I have him rather high. Above Larry Holmes.
One place above Duran.
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One place above Duran.
Yeah, their fight wasn't even competitive.
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According to Greb's fans he was considered shot against Flowers and was blind and was really dead, so why is Flowers so high then?
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