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Old 04-10-2011, 04:56 AM   #1
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Default Is Nick Diaz closing in on the p4p top 10?

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Old 04-10-2011, 06:12 AM   #2
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Considering his run, yes he is.

What an awesome fight. Diaz is old ****ing school. He is all fight and likes to beat you at your own shit!
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Old 04-10-2011, 07:29 AM   #3
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IMO he barley is maybe at 10 if he is in the top 10
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Old 04-10-2011, 10:28 AM   #4
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Yes, but hes got to show he can deal with a wrestler imo, but in terms of excitement Nick never fails
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Old 04-10-2011, 11:20 AM   #5
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uhh hell no
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Old 04-10-2011, 11:23 AM   #6
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uhh hell no
Why? Because he doesn't fight in the UFC like Gray Maynard and Jon Fitch do?
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Old 04-10-2011, 11:35 AM   #7
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Why? Because he doesn't fight in the UFC like Gray Maynard and Jon Fitch do?
Indirectly, yes. When doing head to head match-ups, just because someone beat someone else doesn't mean they automatically defeat someone else. When ranking fighters, however, who they've beaten is of extreme importance.

Daley is a good win, but it is an accomplishment that Koscheck has also completed. Alves proven better than Koscheck by actually defeating him, and Fitch has a good string going for him that includes a win over Alves. You can make the argument that Diaz should be ranked near Koscheck, but I don't think he can put ahead of Fitch or Alves.
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Old 04-10-2011, 11:41 AM   #8
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Default Re: Is Nick Diaz closing in on the p4p top 10?

Im not sure , if he makes an entrance into the P4P rankings he comes in somewhere from 8 - 10 IMO , people are just forgetting that diaz cannot wrestle , and he has been matched well by SF in that they have managed to keep his competition reasonably competetive and marketable without feeding him anybody who can wrestle .

I love Diaz , i really do , but that hole in his game just prevents him from entering the P4P rankings for me , but beleive me i can see how people brand him along side the sports most talented fighters .
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Spot on there Winfella
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Old 04-10-2011, 11:53 AM   #10
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Indirectly, yes. When doing head to head match-ups, just because someone beat someone else doesn't mean they automatically defeat someone else. When ranking fighters, however, who they've beaten is of extreme importance.

Daley is a good win, but it is an accomplishment that Koscheck has also completed. Alves proven better than Koscheck by actually defeating him, and Fitch has a good string going for him that includes a win over Alves. You can make the argument that Diaz should be ranked near Koscheck, but I don't think he can put ahead of Fitch or Alves.
Koscheck would beat Alves comfortably if they fought again.

I would rank Fitch higher than Diaz just now, but not Alves.

Diaz deserves recognition for his run of wins and his run of performances. Neither Alves nor Koscheck deserve likewise.
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Old 04-10-2011, 12:03 PM   #11
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Koscheck would beat Alves comfortably if they fought again.

I would rank Fitch higher than Diaz just now, but not Alves.

Diaz deserves recognition for his run of wins and his run of performances. Neither Alves nor Koscheck deserve likewise.
Thats a pretty bold prediction bearing in mind the way Alves dismantled him last time out (short notice or not) , and add to that Thiago KO'd Koscheck !!!
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Thats a pretty bold prediction bearing in mind the way Alves dismantled him last time out (short notice or not) , and add to that Thiago KO'd Koscheck !!!
Paulo Thiago ko'd Koscheck.

Thiago Alves outpointed him.
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Old 04-10-2011, 12:12 PM   #13
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Koscheck would beat Alves comfortably if they fought again.

I would rank Fitch higher than Diaz just now, but not Alves.

Diaz deserves recognition for his run of wins and his run of performances. Neither Alves nor Koscheck deserve likewise.
Koscheck doesn't get points for beating someone just because you think he would win a rematch. He needs to actually beat him.
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Old 04-10-2011, 12:17 PM   #14
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Paulo Thiago ko'd Koscheck.

Thiago Alves outpointed him.
I know !!! Thats what i said
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Old 04-10-2011, 01:10 PM   #15
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Id say he has the ability to be a top 10 p4p and he is close but he wont be unless he fights in the UFC agian. The competition over the last few years has been pretty darn good KJ, Gomi, Shamrock, Smith, Zaromskis, Sakurai, Daley, Cyborg etc but it has not been the top guys like a Fitch, GSP, Alves, BJ and the other top guys in the UFC Welterweight divison. Diaz has pretty much cleaned out Strikeforce which is damn impressive but the big dogs at 170 are in the UFC.
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