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Old 04-20-2011, 09:06 AM   #16
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To those who have Pac top 15 NOW, or think Pac would be top 10 after beating floyd, could you please give me your top 10/15 then? Dont think about it too much just give me a rough list.

I wont dissect it or criticize it, just curious.

Im a massive pac fan but i feel top 10 or 15 is a very very elite exclusive club
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Old 04-20-2011, 09:22 AM   #17
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To those who have Pac top 15 NOW, or think Pac would be top 10 after beating floyd, could you please give me your top 10/15 then? Dont think about it too much just give me a rough list.

I wont dissect it or criticize it, just curious.

Im a massive pac fan but i feel top 10 or 15 is a very very elite exclusive club

come on, if you climb 11 division from light flyweight too light middleweight and you beat all the legends on the way too the top, you that special, too earn your place amongs the 10 best boxer ever.
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Old 04-20-2011, 09:27 AM   #18
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come on, if you climb 11 division from light flyweight too light middleweight and you beat all the legends on the way too the top, you that special, too earn your place amongs the 10 best boxer ever.
possibly. Maybe hes good enough for top 10. Im a huge pac fan, but im not quite convinced yet. for example you say he beat all the legends on the way. margarito wasnt a legend at 154. cotto was his best win since moving up to 135+ IMO. hatton was the best light welter in the world for sure, but he wasnt a legend at that weight. i dont want to start dissecting pac's resume because in truth, any boxers resume can be questioned depending on what angle you look at it. pac's resume is immense theres no doubting that. very strong.

Pac has a better argument based on what he accomplished below 140 pounds IMO. anything above that is a bonus, cherry on top.
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Old 04-20-2011, 09:51 AM   #19
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possibly. Maybe hes good enough for top 10. Im a huge pac fan, but im not quite convinced yet. for example you say he beat all the legends on the way. margarito wasnt a legend at 154. cotto was his best win since moving up to 135+ IMO. hatton was the best light welter in the world for sure, but he wasnt a legend at that weight. i dont want to start dissecting pac's resume because in truth, any boxers resume can be questioned depending on what angle you look at it. pac's resume is immense theres no doubting that. very strong.

Pac has a better argument based on what he accomplished below 140 pounds IMO. anything above that is a bonus, cherry on top.

didnt ali had problems with ken norton, frazier or foreman, didn't he lose sometimes? is he still in the top 10?

everybody loses, thats the final answer and pacquiao had equal quality opposition than ali, and yes, he often beat his opposition more convincing than ali, who lost so many rds too foreman, before stopping him, or lost too norton or frazier...
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1. sugar ray robinson

2. muhammad ali

3. henry armstrong

4. joe louis

5. willie pepp

6. roberto duran

7. jack johnson

8. sam langford

9. manny pacquiao

10. harry greb

so not only would a win over manny solifie mayweather is one of the best top 10 boxer ever but also he would get ~ 60 million $. floyd must be realy scared of losing his 0.
No Sugar ray leanord?
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Old 04-20-2011, 09:57 AM   #21
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To those who have Pac top 15 NOW, or think Pac would be top 10 after beating floyd, could you please give me your top 10/15 then? Dont think about it too much just give me a rough list.

I wont dissect it or criticize it, just curious.

Im a massive pac fan but i feel top 10 or 15 is a very very elite exclusive club
What would be your top15
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Old 04-20-2011, 09:58 AM   #22
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No Sugar ray leanord?

sugar is between 11-13. talentwise top 3, easy...
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Old 04-20-2011, 10:25 AM   #23
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Pac is already at top 20-15. If he beat Mayweather then he is top 10 for sure.
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Old 04-20-2011, 10:25 AM   #24
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possibly. Maybe hes good enough for top 10. Im a huge pac fan, but im not quite convinced yet. for example you say he beat all the legends on the way. margarito wasnt a legend at 154. cotto was his best win since moving up to 135+ IMO. hatton was the best light welter in the world for sure, but he wasnt a legend at that weight. i dont want to start dissecting pac's resume because in truth, any boxers resume can be questioned depending on what angle you look at it. pac's resume is immense theres no doubting that. very strong.

Pac has a better argument based on what he accomplished below 140 pounds IMO. anything above that is a bonus, cherry on top.
so what's ur list of top 5 atgs? do they have greater resumes than pac? they climb division and win belts on that division, do they fight bigger fighters, even in real life experience we want to fight smaller guys so we have bigger chances to win but pac fights anybody and more bigger than him. and won all. maybe all your list of top 5 or 10 are overated coz they are black, slick and boring fighters
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Old 04-20-2011, 10:31 AM   #25
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Not even Top 25 yet.
so who's your top 1 and compare it to pac's resume. you are top one mother f*c*r
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Old 04-20-2011, 10:38 AM   #26
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so what's ur list of top 5 atgs? do they have greater resumes than pac? they climb division and win belts on that division, do they fight bigger fighters, even in real life experience we want to fight smaller guys so we have bigger chances to win but pac fights anybody and more bigger than him. and won all. maybe all your list of top 5 or 10 are overated coz they are black, slick and boring fighters
wow typical nuthugging response right there.

So i dont agree with something about pac, that makes me black? makes me a flomo? wow your so ****ing ignorant it hurts

i dont give two shits about floyd. and im not black.
I actually like pacquiao. But i guess you fanboys cant understand the concept of liking a fighter, yet still criticizing him for something. That thought never crosses your mind does it?
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What would be your top15
At this moment in time, off the top of my head. In no particular order

SRR
Ali
Louis
Pep
Greb
Armstrong
Duran
Langford
Benny Leonard
Dempsey
SRL
Moore
Monzon
Charles
Fitzsimmons

Im sure im missing out a few to be honest.

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didnt ali had problems with ken norton, frazier or foreman, didn't he lose sometimes? is he still in the top 10?

everybody loses, thats the final answer and pacquiao had equal quality opposition than ali, and yes, he often beat his opposition more convincing than ali, who lost so many rds too foreman, before stopping him, or lost too norton or frazier...
I wasnt talking about pac's losses. when did i mention them at all? Neither did i talk about having problems with anyone. while your point is valid its nothing to do with what i said.

Im not having a go at pacquiao at all. IF he defeats floyd then theres a good case to be made to put him in the top 10. in my opinion though if he beats floyd that puts him in the top 15. Thats hardly an insult to the guy is it?
Maybe 5 years after he's retired i'll see things differently and have him in my top 10. Thats usually how it goes. fighters get appreciated more once they are gone.
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He's already #1. Once he beats Mayweather he becomes the #1 human being that ever lived.
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Going to wait for rating him till he retires, who knows what he is going to achive or fail in the future
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Old 04-20-2011, 10:55 AM   #29
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"How many ranks in ATG list will Pacquiao climb if he beats Mayweather?"

That's the better question and will avoid a lot of debates in this thread. Anyway, I don't think he cracks top 10 if ever, top 15 yes. Beat Martinez top 10 for sure to say the least.
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so who's your top 1 and compare it to pac's resume. you are top one mother f*c*r
dood you're insulting is a stand up poster. just because he doesn't share your views you act like a child? grow the **** up bitch.
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