*Wladimir Klitschko-David Haye Build-up Thread*

[Black2023]

Originally Posted by Black2023

Hi all this is what ive been saying for years now, if you look at my posts its basically what you have described.

From a scientific observation-

Haye has only fought in total 4 men taller than him-

Gurov 6'5
Macarenelli 6'3 1/2
Valuev 7'0
Harrison 6'5 1/2

Anaylse and observe his tactics versus those men...sporadic outbursts...in reality we need to watch his heavyweight bouts where his punch output his very low...this for me is the key.

But Haye and Booth are sure that this is the perfect game plan... taking away his jab by using movement, and letting Haye slip the jab...then every so often catching him.

Again I told everyone on here..Haye punches are far to sporadic to beat Wladimir.

[Primadonna Kool]

Originally Posted by Primadonna Kool

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David Haye looks like he's going to come in about, 220-223 pounds. He looks like he's in similair shape to the John Ruiz fight. When a fighter gains 10-12 pounds from fight to fight, somebody of David Haye's mental make up, and approach. Thats not down to lack of training, or lack of discipline. I think this is more of a tatical approch.......

During the Harrison vs Haye build up, you heard David Haye constantly banging on about. His fitness and the work he had been doing on the track, weather it was on twitter or during the interviews. He was always going on about, his sprint workouts and track conditioning.

"He was absoulutly livid, and fanatic about his training. Constantly repeating that he is in the best shape of his life, constantly repeating that he's done more in this training camp than ever befoe, constantly repeating that he cannot lose"

"David Haye was a complete trance"

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??????

Many people may think this was down to Adam Booth aka the Dark Lord. But i believe that it was down to Audley Harrison, something within David Haye's mental make up and aura.......was bothered and alearted by David Haye, something was disturbed and awoken.

People will never give David Haye credit for what he did to Audley Harrison. But i am one of those individuals, that do him credit. For however how long Audley Harrson fights, there will never be another opponent. Who reduced him to landing one punch, who reduced him to being scared to throw "to the extent of Haye".........it will never happen again.

Everybody who has been following this build up, of David Haye vs Waldimir Kiltschko. Have all seen a distinct change in David Haye's deameaner, some say its down to fear, some say that he looks subdued.

"But there has been a distinct change"

Personally i think David Haye was poccessed last time out, Audley Harrison put David Haye into a trance, and vice versa. They both did that to each other.................

I don't think David Haye will ever be in the shape, physically and technically like he was against Audley Harrison again.

Its almost as if, David Haye has reached the moutain top. And he's standing at the summit, just for that one moment in his life and career admiring what he's achieved, admiring what he has become.

He's said in recent interviews...


"I no longer have to do much in fight build ups, everybody knows who i am, everybody knows my name"

Something has changed within David Haye.

I'm not saying he's going to lose the fight, but something has changed!!!

Change for the better or the worst..????? we will see.

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I honestly beleave that David Haye was not in the kind of shape he was in for the Audley Harrison fight. He looked slow sluggish and heavy legged on july 2nd, but still in my opinion gave a brave effort. I have raised this point in another thread, all these steroid injections, anti-inflammatory injections may have also affect his performance. Its common knowledge that when you take simple anti-inflammatory like Ibuprofen you are advised not to do any strenuous exercise.

And i'm sure David Haye was on something stronger than, 100mg tablets of Ibuprophen from "Boots".

These are factors i cannot overlook.

"But Wladimir Kiltschko was the better man on the night"

Haye should get rid of booth. There was only so far David's natural talent would take him. Now it's time for Haye to get serious, and get a real trainer. David is gifted and could do a lot better given the right team.

[GazOC]

Christ! I really must dig out some my old posts on this fight and quote myself.....

[icemax]

Originally Posted by Talk Is Cheap

".....Meanwhile in other news, US flagged liner Lusitania sunk by German submarine"

[Primadonna Kool]

I want Wladimir Kiltschko to continue to appear on TV shows in the UK. And i want him to continue with his David Haye rehabilitation.

Hopefully David Haye stops being a primadonna, and calls Kiltschko out for rematch.

"Aslong as he gets paid 1-3 Million, he should be happy"

[Primadonna Kool]

I've got a feeling Lennox Lewis is going to come out of retirement.

[MagicMan91]

Originally Posted by Primadonna Kool

I've got a feeling Lennox Lewis is going to come out of retirement.

I've kinda thought the same lately...probably wont though

[CHEF]

[icemax]

Originally Posted by CHEF

Tea, two sugars, chop chop

[Primadonna Kool]

"What a bunch of losers, they need to man up"



David Haye was last night urged to quit as he attended what many saw as his retirement party...

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Booth, who is Haye's trainer and manager, last night said: "Personally, I don't think he should fight again.
"He doesn't need to. He has achieved all he could achieve in his career so he can retire with his head held high.
"People must not forget he's a cruiserweight who fought a dominant heavyweight and so there is no shame in losing on points to Wladimir."
He added: "We are having a party. But I would not say it is an official announcement that he is retiring.

[DDA365]

Originally Posted by Primadonna Kool

" He has achieved all he could achieve in his career so he can retire with his head held high."

I do think all along booth saw just getting a fight with the klitschkos and earning decent money off it as the end game

I hope Haye has more self belief and just goes for it, he really should he has nothing to lose and everything to gain now

[Joe.Boxer]

Originally Posted by Talk Is Cheap

I suspect you find your user title & location genuinely hilarious.

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