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Old 05-02-2011, 06:55 PM   #16
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And lest he be forgotten, Freddie Steele could really hit. He flattened tough Ceferino Garcia TWICE.
Steel would be interesting..if he could take what Hagler would throw at him that is..
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Old 05-02-2011, 06:55 PM   #17
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Yeah, but Hearns wasn't a natural MW.
Neither was Robinson...

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Nor an accomplished one. Not necessarily the best benchmark, but yeah he could hit. Replace him with one of the guys who carried their murder up to LHW and up, maybe it's a different story?
Hearns was never the most durable guy in any division, but that power was very serious.

Guys "who carried their murder" (nicely put) higher... like Burley. Now we're talkin'.
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Old 05-02-2011, 06:57 PM   #18
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Neither was Robinson...
Sure, but Robby had a proven ability to KO at MW, and more weapons to do it with. And more ways to use em at the same time.

Maybe a Burley with some good hands could do it. And maybe, someone like Charles with a combination of speed and power.
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Old 05-02-2011, 07:06 PM   #19
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Ezzard Charles would have a good as chance as any.

A tall rangy puncher like Hearns, he carried genuine Heavyweight KO power in all of his punches, but particularly that left hook. The main thing is he had a left hook counter that could come from nowhere and send a guy into la-la land without even knowing he'd ever been hit.

Although the chances of Ezzard turning the trick is miniscule.
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Old 05-02-2011, 07:13 PM   #20
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I woudl never say it, but how come no one has mention Langford yet?
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Old 05-02-2011, 07:25 PM   #21
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Langford & Ezzard are very good possibilities, but I just don't see even their chances as being anything more than remote. Hagler had everything you'd want in a chin and he protected it very well. I think his chin was better than LaMotta's and Chuvalo's.
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Old 05-02-2011, 07:26 PM   #22
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If Hagler is getting cracked it is not by one punch IMO. If it happens it's going to be his getting worn down over a prohibitive distance, one he never fought over.
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I can see a Langford right hand doing the trick. Hagler had a pretty well developed body as well, but i wouldn't rule out a Fitzsimmons sharpshot there doing the job either. I actually disagree McDude, I think Hagler's mentality, fundamentally sound defense, and great stamina would keep him from a TKO/weardown stoppage.

I feel like it would have to be fast, furious, and accurate. and lucky.
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If Hagler is getting cracked it is not by one punch IMO. If it happens it's going to be his getting worn down over a prohibitive distance, one he never fought over.
---Gotta agree with that.
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Old 05-02-2011, 07:39 PM   #25
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If Hagler is getting cracked it is not by one punch IMO. If it happens it's going to be his getting worn down over a prohibitive distance, one he never fought over.
Yep, but over the 15 round distance, it simply ain't happening.
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Old 05-02-2011, 07:39 PM   #26
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Yep, but over the 15 round distance, it simply ain't happening.
I'd be shocked stunned and startled.
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Old 05-02-2011, 07:41 PM   #27
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Ezzard Charles would have a good as chance as any.

A tall rangy puncher like Hearns, he carried genuine Heavyweight KO power in all of his punches, but particularly that left hook. The main thing is he had a left hook counter that could come from nowhere and send a guy into la-la land without even knowing he'd ever been hit.

Although the chances of Ezzard turning the trick is miniscule.
Didn't think of Charles..it's a remote possibility. I think of the sweeping left hook he nearly slew Archie Moore with.
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Old 05-02-2011, 08:15 PM   #28
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Langford would be my choice
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Old 05-02-2011, 08:19 PM   #29
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Hearns, Mugabi, Roldan, Hart, Briscoe....

All dynamite punchers. All nailed Hagler with solid shots. None did much to him.

Hagler's chin was concrete. With the possible exception of Sam Langford, no middleweight in history is likely to stop him, imo.
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Langford & Ezzard are very good possibilities, but I just don't see even their chances as being anything more than remote. Hagler had everything you'd want in a chin and he protected it very well. I think his chin was better than LaMotta's and Chuvalo's.
the slaughtering LaMotta took in Robinson IV, do you think Hagler would be standing after all those shots. I know Robinson wouldnt be able to do that to Hagler, but if he did theoretically, i dont think he'd be on his feet.
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