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Old 05-03-2011, 07:28 AM   #46
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If GBP matches the offer, can TR actually up their offer? I don't think they can.
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Old 05-03-2011, 07:46 AM   #47
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Is there a Pinoy around to take this poor mosquito out of his misery?
OK I'll take it to him.

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Old 05-03-2011, 07:49 AM   #48
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I really don't see why GBP would even dare to counter offer JMM on a financial standpoint.
And even then, I don't think JMM, piss-drinking aside, is dumb enough to take that fight over a legacy cementing and definitely more profitable fight against Pac.

Furthermore, I don't see Pac, Roach, heck even Arriza and Arum ever bowing down to JMM's demands EVER.
They all believe that JMM is a done deal for Pac and they will only consider him as an opponent should fags (hint! hint!) continue to evade Pac.

It doesn't add jack shit to Pac's legacy either.

In short, I don't see why any of these (provided that they are true) can "make TR pull Pac down to 140 for a fight with JMM".
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Old 05-03-2011, 07:58 AM   #49
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JMM needs a tune fight before he face the beast at 147.

JMM@140 + peepee power drink = Pac by KO

JMM@144 + peepee power drink = Pac by KO

JMM@147 + peepee power drink = Pac by KO
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Old 05-03-2011, 08:05 AM   #50
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JMM should take the fight. ask for a lot of guarantees.
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Old 05-03-2011, 08:37 AM   #51
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i find it hard to believe marquez would choose canelo alvarez at 147 over pac at the same weight. whatever the official weigh in will be, pac always rehydrate to 148-149. that's near jmm's weight on fight night.

alvarez will be too big for marquez.
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Old 05-03-2011, 08:40 AM   #52
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also, a guarantee of 5 million with pac is ALOT bigger than a 5 million guarantee with alvarez

HELLO???????!!!!!!!!!!! PAY PER VIEW?????!!!

that's hardly a counter offer.
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Old 05-03-2011, 09:42 AM   #53
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also, a guarantee of 5 million with pac is ALOT bigger than a 5 million guarantee with alvarez

HELLO???????!!!!!!!!!!! PAY PER VIEW?????!!!

that's hardly a counter offer.
pac-jmm3 would probably make at least more than 700k PPV (clottey fight). how much PPV would jmm-canelo make? this is not even a close offer.
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Old 05-03-2011, 09:47 AM   #54
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divac kissing jmm's balls as usual.

convince ur lover juan to take gbp's offer. this is by far the best bail out under the circumstances..

we both know that jmm will look like a clown and will be torn apart(mortal kombat style) by pacquiao if ever this fight gets made at 147lbs.
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Old 05-03-2011, 10:27 AM   #55
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pac-jmm3 would probably make at least more than 700k PPV (clottey fight). how much PPV would jmm-canelo make? this is not even a close offer.
my thoughts exactly
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Old 05-03-2011, 10:37 AM   #56
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Pacquiao vs Marquez III would easily do a million buys in the States..... Marquez vs Alvarez probably wouldn't be a PPV event.

Golden Girl should do the right thing by their fighter (seen as though that's what they say they do) and let Marquez take the fight.

It would be a career best payday and a highly significant fight for both he and Pacquiao. Who really gives a shit about Alvarez, if JMM won people would just say he beat some hypejob and if he lost it would be a case of losing to a middleweight.

Without losing an awful lot of money and without looking like complete idiots there's nothing they can do to match a $5m guarantee plus an upside - which would probably come in at close to $10m.
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Old 05-03-2011, 10:51 AM   #57
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You're a complete disgrace to this forum!

Where the **** did you get that Marquez is choosing to fight Canelo?

You're ****ing clueless as usual!
If that's the case, what's the point of your thread insinuating a possibility of JMM Canelo fight.
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Old 05-03-2011, 11:02 AM   #58
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Initially most of us here thought there was'nt a matchup that GBP could counter Arums offer to JMM of a guarantee of 5 million +PPV upside.

Apparently GBP is brewing up and thinking about matching that offer to Marquez with a fight with Canelo Alvarez at 147 lbs.


The rules in Marquez' existing contract with GBP is that GBP has the right to match any offer by another promoter.

......so if Arum wants Marquez for Pacquiao, it looks like now that the only way that he would be able to legally bring Marquez aboard TOP Rank promotions is to offer the Pacquiao fight to Marquez but at 140 lbs.

Here's the thing, currently Arum's offer to Marquez is for 5 million guarantee for a fight with Pacquiao at 147 lbs.
........GBP has a 147 lbs fighter he can match Marquez up with and offer the same 5 million, Canelo Alvarez.

......now, if Arum offered Marquez the Pacquiao fight at 140 lbs....GBP does'nt have a 140 lbs fighter that can generate enough interest to guarantee Marquez 5 million against.

This is going to get interesting, because now Arum may be forced to ask Pacroid to come down to 140 lbs to fight Marquez.......a situation that turns up roses for Marquez.


Fight fans may end up getting the fair JMM-Pac 3 fight at 140 lbs they've been asking for!
Actually.....Golden Boy and DLH are screwing JMM. PAC has other options that are bigger and more challenging. The only reason PAC would want to fight JMM is to give him a payday and a chance to convincingly beat Juan. However....a win over JMM at this stage means next to nothing. It means about as much as it did for Floyd.

JMM is a warrior and he does want a chance to beat PAC, but knows his chances are slim to none. But that chance is enough to get him to take the fight....He just wants to get paid for it...and he should.

By facing Canelo....he'll lose to a fighter who isn't PAC...he'll make the same money but losing to Canelo vs losing to PAC makes it a easy decision for Juan. He wants to fight PAC but Golden Boy seems to want to cash in on the name and create a NEW star in Canelo.

I HOPE they offer the fight to JMM at 140....better yet...135! At least there, JMM is able to operate at his highest level, keeping most of his attributes that make him a dangerous fighter. At 140 and above.....JMM becomes ordinary.
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Old 05-03-2011, 11:02 AM   #59
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If that's the case, what's the point of your thread insinuating a possibility of JMM Canelo fight.
He's just giving his boy a way to DUCK.
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Old 05-03-2011, 11:12 AM   #60
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i find it hard to believe marquez would choose canelo alvarez at 147 over pac at the same weight. whatever the official weigh in will be, pac always rehydrate to 148-149. that's near jmm's weight on fight night.

alvarez will be too big for marquez.

I don't think JMM would have a choice in that matter. It seems JMM has to accept Golden Boy's offer if that offer matches any other offer. So if Arum is offering Pac for 5 million and Golden Boy offers Alvarez for 5 million then JMM has to face Alvarez. He could sit and fight noone until Golden Boy's clause expires but in that case JMM would have to sit until next year and that would be bad for him at this point in his career. It will be interesting to see how this all plays out.
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