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Old 05-04-2011, 04:51 AM   #1
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As soon as I step into the ring with a pressure fighter my game is falling to dust. I guess i have turned out to be a technical fighter and when my opponenent is just pushing forward and don't care about fighting "pretty", i really don't know how to dominate him. In that way, fighters who are less-skilled then me can kick my ass. Right now I am working a lot on infight, but it would be a great help if any of your guys could share some experience or advice on the subject?
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Old 05-04-2011, 06:04 AM   #2
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Beat him to the punch, get you punches off first and then don't be their turn off use you angles throw another combo then reset.
Definately work on your infighting though your hooks, uppercuts, bodyshots and also your defence in close.
Do you have a good jab? This is a very important weapon to unsettle a pressure fighters rythym and not let him get he's punches off
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Old 05-04-2011, 09:49 AM   #3
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I was talking to my coach about this recently. I'm big and slow and everyone I can spar with is much quicker, and I get flurried on a lot.

Solutions I've found so far:

1. Try to land a huge counter straight right hand as early as possible. Make them think twice about getting close.

2. When they get close, step into them, push them back and throw a punch immediately.

3. Clinch whenever they get close.

4. Learn to drop the overhand right. Its great for getting over their guard when they are close...and since they don't see it coming, it usually catches them by surprise.

5. Lose all my flab and develop footwork like Floyd Mayweather Jr.
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Old 05-04-2011, 02:48 PM   #4
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By definition there’s a before & after... Neo can make a pressure fighter go backwards instantly for others it takes 12 rounds.
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Old 05-04-2011, 02:52 PM   #5
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Old 05-04-2011, 02:54 PM   #6
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As soon as I step into the ring with a pressure fighter my game is falling to dust. I guess i have turned out to be a technical fighter and when my opponenent is just pushing forward and don't care about fighting "pretty", i really don't know how to dominate him. In that way, fighters who are less-skilled then me can kick my ass. Right now I am working a lot on infight, but it would be a great help if any of your guys could share some experience or advice on the subject?

This is a great question. We train my team to be boxer-movers (generally), so we often have to deal with pressure fighters.

There are a few answers, and you will want to employ ALL of them
- power. Pressure fighters are there to be hit. You have to hit them HARD to get them off you. If your power is lacking -> develop it. Better technique is only part of the equation to punching with more power.

- Move your feet faster. Make the pressure fighter chase you around the ring. Tire them out. Keep the fight on the outside at all costs.

- PRESSURE THEM BACK!! Throw out the game plan, damn the torpedos. Go right at him. Most pressure fighters fall to pieces when they get pressured back. Sit down low, wide stance, body weight even, get your head low. Flurry and punch hard.

practice practice practice. Sparring drills, doing role playing (one partner acts pressure, the other acts mover), are invaluable.
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Old 05-04-2011, 03:56 PM   #7
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great advice so far, thanks a lot.

I will keep this in mind the next time i spar with one of those guys.
I will get back to you and tell how it went
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Old 05-04-2011, 04:14 PM   #8
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Pressure fighters are usually shorter and throw a lot of wider punches. Pump that jab and keep your distance (don't confuse this with running) a settle step can make a person miss, you don't need to go halfway across the ring. If they do close that distance, smother his punches and clinch.. go behind the ref and start back in the center of the ring
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Old 05-04-2011, 05:31 PM   #9
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As soon as I step into the ring with a pressure fighter my game is falling to dust. I guess i have turned out to be a technical fighter and when my opponenent is just pushing forward and don't care about fighting "pretty", i really don't know how to dominate him. In that way, fighters who are less-skilled then me can kick my ass. Right now I am working a lot on infight, but it would be a great help if any of your guys could share some experience or advice on the subject?
Remember there is a difference between pressure fighting (lots o' punches) and SKILLED pressure fighting (lots of well placed varied punches, counters, doubled shots, cutting off the ring, etc...). A skilled pressure fighter is a force to be reckoned with.

If all pressure fighters are getting the best of you then this sounds like a lack of understanding of (pressure) Boxing (at a fast pace) and human body mechanics.

The average pressure fighter follows a very basic script:

-- Usually throws hooks, i.e., power shots
-- Throws with one hand then the other (due to the wind up for power)
-- ALWAYS punches when in range as soon as possible
-- Fights in a forward leaning stance off of the front foot
-- Fights in a more square stance to deliver power faster
-- Leaves tons of openings due to aggression focusing him on giving not receiving

Using these basic understandings, If you keep your cool you can use his strengths against him to stunning effect... Well that is until your stamina fails you and you haven't landed anything quality. Given the anatomy of an average pressure fighter you can:

-- Circle away from his "money" shot and off the ropes when you land
-- Jab, 1/2 step back, POWER uppercut/hook/straight, then (left hook, left hook push, clench)
-- Step in, millisecond pause, POWER straight
-- Step in, millisecond pause, POWER uppercut
-- Block right hook, switch stance, get the left up to block left hook, POWER uppercut, jab out southpaw or clinch, and switch back
-- Wear him out staying in range but blocking the alternating shots (left, right, left, right)
-- Constant mid combo counter punches to disrupt his punching rhythm, punch off of blocks
-- NEVER be caught standing and blocking UNLESS you are using his aggression as a weapon tiring him out.
-- Body shots when you can!
-- Leave openings with the full intent of countering the logical aggressive shot

Most pressure fighters are more Will than Skill. You can use aggressive human nature and bio-mechanics against them. The real issue is how cool and clear thinking can you be under fire and your stamina. You run into a Skilled Pressure Fighter? That is problems.

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Old 05-04-2011, 06:56 PM   #10
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Great question and advice.

I am tall and light so most people i end up with are smaller than me and naturally pressure me more.

Body shots work wonders. The other day in the gym i was sparring with a boy and he was coming straight at me, a jab to the head and a right hook to the body before getting away stopped him from throwing anything for a good 30 seconds. Enough time to take control.

Hands up. For me anyway, some people can work a low guard, i tried it the other day and however cool i felt doing it i got caught more than i would like to have been. A tight defense and keeping your chin down is essential.

Try to stay out of corners. The ring in my gym is 14 feet and theres not much room for me to control the distance but if you get in a corner then that person pressuring you will gain more confidence and go nuts on you.
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Old 05-04-2011, 08:22 PM   #11
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I'm surprised it took 7 replies before someone mentioned jabbing. That's number 1. Gonna be harder for someone to get close to you if you are constantly jabbing and then moving. Hit him with the jab which should stop him for a split second, just enough for you to change your position a little bit and make him re-adjust.

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There are a few answers, and you will want to employ ALL of them
- power. Pressure fighters are there to be hit. You have to hit them HARD to get them off you. If your power is lacking -> develop it. Better technique is only part of the equation to punching with more power.

- Move your feet faster. Make the pressure fighter chase you around the ring. Tire them out. Keep the fight on the outside at all costs.
These two can sometimes cancel each other out. If you want to hit with power, you need to set your feet. But that gives your opponent more time to punch. A pressure fighter wants you standing in one place.

So you have to be quick with your footowork as you move around the ring, then pivot off to an angle, set your feet and fire a quick hard combination and then right back to the quick movement. If you hang around one one spot too long, or try to load up your power shots (slowing them down) you will give your opponent more time to get his shots off.
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Old 05-05-2011, 06:53 AM   #12
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I'm surprised it took 7 replies before someone mentioned jabbing. That's number 1. Gonna be harder for someone to get close to you if you are constantly jabbing and then moving. Hit him with the jab which should stop him for a split second, just enough for you to change your position a little bit and make him re-adjust.


These two can sometimes cancel each other out. If you want to hit with power, you need to set your feet. But that gives your opponent more time to punch. A pressure fighter wants you standing in one place.

So you have to be quick with your footowork as you move around the ring, then pivot off to an angle, set your feet and fire a quick hard combination and then right back to the quick movement. If you hang around one one spot too long, or try to load up your power shots (slowing them down) you will give your opponent more time to get his shots off.

I actualy mentioned the jab with the first response
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Old 05-05-2011, 01:58 PM   #13
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haha ok I missed that lol.

But seriously that's the #1 thing before any fancy footwork, trying to pressure him back, throwing power shots at him etc. Keep your jab in his face. Double and triple it. Feint and vary the timing so he can't counter over with a right.
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Old 05-05-2011, 11:13 PM   #14
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Ye I agree it's definately the major weapon against pressure fighters, but if they don't have a good jab they can work other things that I stated in my post as well as the other posts people stated, but the jab is very good.
The way Diaz fought katsidis is the perfect template for tackling a pressure fighter : jab, angles and beat him to the punch
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Old 05-14-2011, 02:42 PM   #15
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One thing that can help against a shorter bob and weave guy is to really hold your jab out there as a measuring stick, when he tries to get under it that when you have the quick step off.
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