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Old 07-01-2007, 02:46 PM   #1
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Boxing skills to one side, which boxer had the greatest pure athleticism i.e. strength, reflexes, speed, agility and endurance?

My votes: RJJ, Naseem Hamed and Muhammad Ali.
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Old 07-01-2007, 02:48 PM   #2
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roy jones junior.
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Old 07-01-2007, 02:50 PM   #3
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Roy Jones, Jr.
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Wow, pretty clear consensus for RJJ thus far.

Wonder what he could run 100m in out of the blocks?!
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John Conteh and Ken Norton
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RJJ looked like a super stud, though I saw him play b-ball and he was nothing special in the quickness department on the hardwood. Likewise, Ali embarrassed himself in the Superstars competition 100 yard dash, running a time that was decent for an 8th grade girl. That said, they both obviously possessed the particular athleticism (god, i hate that word) to excel to the hightest degree in the ring. I think what I'm saying is "athetic" is not a term that exists in a vacuum; it has to be applied to a discipline. Otherwise, just grab the best decathlete and extoll his athletic ability. Those freaks high jump 7 feet, put the shot 60, and a quarter mile in 47 seconds. But they would suck in the ring.
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Is Conteh the only boxer to win a superstars competition?.
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Interesting points Seamus, I guess by athleticism i was looking for qualities transferable between sports, but you are saying it has to be applied to a discipline.

Not sure I agree. Am sure Daley Thompson had all the athletic gifts (47 400m, 8 metre long jump) to be an excellent boxer, ASSUMING he was tough enough (to get hit in the face and keep going) and could attain the boxing skills.

Those are two big 'ifs' and the answer would likely be 'no' for toughness, but that is not what this thread is about...

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RJJ looked like a super stud, though I saw him play b-ball and he was nothing special in the quickness department on the hardwood. Likewise, Ali embarrassed himself in the Superstars competition 100 yard dash, running a time that was decent for an 8th grade girl. That said, they both obviously possessed the particular athleticism (god, i hate that word) to excel to the hightest degree in the ring. I think what I'm saying is "athetic" is not a term that exists in a vacuum; it has to be applied to a discipline. Otherwise, just grab the best decathlete and extoll his athletic ability. Those freaks high jump 7 feet, put the shot 60, and a quarter mile in 47 seconds. But they would suck in the ring.
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Old 07-01-2007, 03:16 PM   #10
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Hey Seamus,

can you provide a reference, date and time for Ali's poor sprint time. Sounds very interesting.

I would have guessed that an 18 year old Ali at well under 200lb would have gone pretty well over a 100m.

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RJJ looked like a super stud, though I saw him play b-ball and he was nothing special in the quickness department on the hardwood. Likewise, Ali embarrassed himself in the Superstars competition 100 yard dash, running a time that was decent for an 8th grade girl. That said, they both obviously possessed the particular athleticism (god, i hate that word) to excel to the hightest degree in the ring. I think what I'm saying is "athetic" is not a term that exists in a vacuum; it has to be applied to a discipline. Otherwise, just grab the best decathlete and extoll his athletic ability. Those freaks high jump 7 feet, put the shot 60, and a quarter mile in 47 seconds. But they would suck in the ring.
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Old 07-01-2007, 03:24 PM   #11
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My vote is for Jim Jeffries.
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Old 07-01-2007, 03:27 PM   #12
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Mike Tyson
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Old 07-01-2007, 03:38 PM   #13
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I have always thought Evander Holyfield was also an extremely atheltic individual. He had very fast hands and excellent reflexes early on in his career.

Holyfield actually beat Carl Lewis in an 800 meter race at a charity event in the early 90's.
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Old 07-01-2007, 03:40 PM   #14
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Tyson is actually a good point - although he wasnt built like a typical athlete - but it was all in the training. Maybe it's the sam efor all of them - in the training. I go for Sugar Ray Robinson. On the subject of Daley Thompson, how coud we know he had any punch speed at all? A fast arm for throwing, but does it translate? So hard to know.

I'd love to see the Ali sprint.
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Old 07-01-2007, 03:43 PM   #15
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Easy: Muhammad Ali. Second up would be Mike Tyson and then Joe Louis. RJJ isn't as strong or even as big as those guys (yes, big does not mean better, but big AND very good as in the case of Ali is better).
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