Most athletic boxer ever

NickHudson · 07-01-2007, 02:46 PM

Boxing skills to one side, which boxer had the greatest pure athleticism i.e. strength, reflexes, speed, agility and endurance?

My votes: RJJ, Naseem Hamed and Muhammad Ali.

ibragimovfan · 07-01-2007, 02:48 PM

roy jones junior.

sandwichsurgeon · 07-01-2007, 02:50 PM

Roy Jones Junior

brooklyn1550 · 07-01-2007, 02:50 PM

Roy Jones, Jr.

NickHudson · 07-01-2007, 02:52 PM

Wow, pretty clear consensus for RJJ thus far.

Wonder what he could run 100m in out of the blocks?!

Mantequilla · 07-01-2007, 02:58 PM

John Conteh and Ken Norton

Seamus · 07-01-2007, 03:01 PM

RJJ looked like a super stud, though I saw him play b-ball and he was nothing special in the quickness department on the hardwood. Likewise, Ali embarrassed himself in the Superstars competition 100 yard dash, running a time that was decent for an 8th grade girl. That said, they both obviously possessed the particular athleticism (god, i hate that word) to excel to the hightest degree in the ring. I think what I'm saying is "athetic" is not a term that exists in a vacuum; it has to be applied to a discipline. Otherwise, just grab the best decathlete and extoll his athletic ability. Those freaks high jump 7 feet, put the shot 60, and a quarter mile in 47 seconds. But they would suck in the ring.

Mantequilla · 07-01-2007, 03:04 PM

Is Conteh the only boxer to win a superstars competition?.

NickHudson · 07-01-2007, 03:14 PM

Interesting points Seamus, I guess by athleticism i was looking for qualities transferable between sports, but you are saying it has to be applied to a discipline.

Not sure I agree. Am sure Daley Thompson had all the athletic gifts (47 400m, 8 metre long jump) to be an excellent boxer, ASSUMING he was tough enough (to get hit in the face and keep going) and could attain the boxing skills.

Those are two big 'ifs' and the answer would likely be 'no' for toughness, but that is not what this thread is about...

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Originally Posted by Seamus

RJJ looked like a super stud, though I saw him play b-ball and he was nothing special in the quickness department on the hardwood. Likewise, Ali embarrassed himself in the Superstars competition 100 yard dash, running a time that was decent for an 8th grade girl. That said, they both obviously possessed the particular athleticism (god, i hate that word) to excel to the hightest degree in the ring. I think what I'm saying is "athetic" is not a term that exists in a vacuum; it has to be applied to a discipline. Otherwise, just grab the best decathlete and extoll his athletic ability. Those freaks high jump 7 feet, put the shot 60, and a quarter mile in 47 seconds. But they would suck in the ring.

NickHudson · 07-01-2007, 03:16 PM

Hey Seamus,

can you provide a reference, date and time for Ali's poor sprint time. Sounds very interesting.

I would have guessed that an 18 year old Ali at well under 200lb would have gone pretty well over a 100m.

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Originally Posted by Seamus

RJJ looked like a super stud, though I saw him play b-ball and he was nothing special in the quickness department on the hardwood. Likewise, Ali embarrassed himself in the Superstars competition 100 yard dash, running a time that was decent for an 8th grade girl. That said, they both obviously possessed the particular athleticism (god, i hate that word) to excel to the hightest degree in the ring. I think what I'm saying is "athetic" is not a term that exists in a vacuum; it has to be applied to a discipline. Otherwise, just grab the best decathlete and extoll his athletic ability. Those freaks high jump 7 feet, put the shot 60, and a quarter mile in 47 seconds. But they would suck in the ring.

Mega Lamps · 07-01-2007, 03:24 PM

My vote is for Jim Jeffries.

pryorgatti · 07-01-2007, 03:27 PM

Mike Tyson
RJJ

miamite · 07-01-2007, 03:38 PM

I have always thought Evander Holyfield was also an extremely atheltic individual. He had very fast hands and excellent reflexes early on in his career.

Holyfield actually beat Carl Lewis in an 800 meter race at a charity event in the early 90's.

texluh · 07-01-2007, 03:40 PM

Tyson is actually a good point - although he wasnt built like a typical athlete - but it was all in the training. Maybe it's the sam efor all of them - in the training. I go for Sugar Ray Robinson. On the subject of Daley Thompson, how coud we know he had any punch speed at all? A fast arm for throwing, but does it translate? So hard to know.

I'd love to see the Ali sprint.

hobgoblin · 07-01-2007, 03:43 PM

Easy: Muhammad Ali. Second up would be Mike Tyson and then Joe Louis. RJJ isn't as strong or even as big as those guys (yes, big does not mean better, but big AND very good as in the case of Ali is better).

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NickHudson Gatekeeper ESB Full Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 448 vCash: 1000	Re: Most athletic boxer ever Wow, pretty clear consensus for RJJ thus far. Wonder what he could run 100m in out of the blocks?!
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Mantequilla Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 2,484 vCash: 1000	Re: Most athletic boxer ever John Conteh and Ken Norton
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Seamus Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Lisboa, Portugal Posts: 10,118 vCash: 1000	Re: Most athletic boxer ever RJJ looked like a super stud, though I saw him play b-ball and he was nothing special in the quickness department on the hardwood. Likewise, Ali embarrassed himself in the Superstars competition 100 yard dash, running a time that was decent for an 8th grade girl. That said, they both obviously possessed the particular athleticism (god, i hate that word) to excel to the hightest degree in the ring. I think what I'm saying is "athetic" is not a term that exists in a vacuum; it has to be applied to a discipline. Otherwise, just grab the best decathlete and extoll his athletic ability. Those freaks high jump 7 feet, put the shot 60, and a quarter mile in 47 seconds. But they would suck in the ring.
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Mantequilla Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 2,484 vCash: 1000	Re: Most athletic boxer ever Is Conteh the only boxer to win a superstars competition?.
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Mega Lamps Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: West Virginia Posts: 691 vCash: 1000	Re: Most athletic boxer ever My vote is for Jim Jeffries.
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pryorgatti Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 586 vCash: 1000	Re: Most athletic boxer ever Mike Tyson RJJ
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miamite tko ESB Jr Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 107 vCash: 1000	Re: Most athletic boxer ever I have always thought Evander Holyfield was also an extremely atheltic individual. He had very fast hands and excellent reflexes early on in his career. Holyfield actually beat Carl Lewis in an 800 meter race at a charity event in the early 90's.
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texluh newbie Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 3 vCash: 1000	Re: Most athletic boxer ever Tyson is actually a good point - although he wasnt built like a typical athlete - but it was all in the training. Maybe it's the sam efor all of them - in the training. I go for Sugar Ray Robinson. On the subject of Daley Thompson, how coud we know he had any punch speed at all? A fast arm for throwing, but does it translate? So hard to know. I'd love to see the Ali sprint.
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hobgoblin Gatekeeper ESB Full Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 402 vCash: 1000	Re: Most athletic boxer ever Easy: Muhammad Ali. Second up would be Mike Tyson and then Joe Louis. RJJ isn't as strong or even as big as those guys (yes, big does not mean better, but big AND very good as in the case of Ali is better).
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