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Old 11-28-2007, 06:00 AM   #1
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hey classic guys, am looking for good biographies on bob fitzsimmons, jimmy wilde and sonny liston, any suggestions?

i know i can count on you lot
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Old 11-28-2007, 11:47 AM   #2
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My 464 page bio on Fitz is coming out in December.
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Old 11-28-2007, 11:49 AM   #3
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My 464 page bio on Fitz is coming out in December.
Got a date yet boss?

PlugInBabies, Night Train is the one as far as Liston goes, though have to approach it with a certain amount of skepticism - some of it seems to be bang on,but you need to be able to make up your own mind.

Cracking read.
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Old 11-28-2007, 11:57 AM   #4
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Book is being printed right now. As soon as it comes off the presses I'll issue a press release.
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Old 11-28-2007, 11:58 AM   #5
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Book is being printed right now. As soon as it comes off the presses I'll issue a press release.
Fantastic. How is the Hart book coming along?
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Old 11-28-2007, 01:02 PM   #6
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'Night Train' or 'The Devil and Sonny Liston' but not both as they are essentially the same book by the same author.

'Fighting was my business' is the only Jimmy Wilde book I know of, I have it, but have yet to read it

'Prizefighter the life and times of Bob Fitzsimmons' is well overpriced on Amazon etc, but if you live in Britain I have seen it in some larger WHSmiths, haven't read it, but it has been well received
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Old 11-28-2007, 06:26 PM   #7
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Fantastic. How is the Hart book coming along?
Hart is after Jeffries. Working on Jeff now.

DO NOT buy any other bio on Fitz until you have read mine! Anyone who has read my books knows how thorough they are. You will not be disappointed by this Fitz book. It is actually my favorite one so far.

In the Ring With Bob Fitzsimmons
See contents below (excuse the formatting issues when transferring it here)

Contents
Preface: The Series Continues 4
1. Australian Boxing 6
2. The Underappreciated Middleweight 9
3. Fixing a Loss or Losing in a Fix? 32
4. American Appreciation 53
5. World Middleweight Champion 70
6. Testing the Heavyweight Waters 94
7. Exhibition Tour 112
8. Revenge 125
9. All Comers Exhibitions Resumed 148
10. Making the Challenge 156
11. Still the Middleweight Champion 172
12. Death and Delay 189
13. Boxing Versus the Law 213
14. The New “Champion” 230
15. The Championship Cloud 252
16. The Fix 266
17. The Fight After the Fight 309
18. Paving the Way, Predictions and Preparation 328
19. The Real Championship 374
20. The Films and the Controversy 401
21. Another Semi-Retired Champion 421
Appendix: Bob Fitzsimmons’ Record 434
Bibliography 453
Acknowledgments 456
Index 458
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Old 11-29-2007, 06:49 PM   #8
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Hart is after Jeffries. Working on Jeff now.

DO NOT buy any other bio on Fitz until you have read mine! Anyone who has read my books knows how thorough they are. You will not be disappointed by this Fitz book. It is actually my favorite one so far.

In the Ring With Bob Fitzsimmons
See contents below (excuse the formatting issues when transferring it here)


Contents

Preface: The Series Continues 4
1. Australian Boxing 6
2. The Underappreciated Middleweight 9
3. Fixing a Loss or Losing in a Fix? 32
4. American Appreciation 53
5. World Middleweight Champion 70
6. Testing the Heavyweight Waters 94
7. Exhibition Tour 112
8. Revenge 125
9. All Comers Exhibitions Resumed 148
10. Making the Challenge 156
11. Still the Middleweight Champion 172
12. Death and Delay 189
13. Boxing Versus the Law 213
14. The New “Champion” 230
15. The Championship Cloud 252
16. The Fix 266
17. The Fight After the Fight 309
18. Paving the Way, Predictions and Preparation 328
19. The Real Championship 374
20. The Films and the Controversy 401
21. Another Semi-Retired Champion 421
Appendix: Bob Fitzsimmons’ Record 434
Bibliography 453
Acknowledgments 456
Index 458
Great stuff, wish someone would do a book for the following..... Ezzard Charles, Jersey Joe Walcott, fritzie Zivic, a decent Harry Greb, Henry Armstrong, Pancho Villa and Muhammad Ali.......... JOKE!!!
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thanks for the tips guys, will most certainly be looking into apollack's upcoming book on ruby.
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Old 11-30-2007, 02:38 PM   #10
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"The Fighting Blacksmith" (London 1976) by Gilbert Odd. About Fitzsimmons.
Maybe, that it is available at a second-hand-bookshop or at amazon.
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Old 11-30-2007, 05:41 PM   #11
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Book is being printed right now. As soon as it comes off the presses I'll issue a press release.
and as soon as it's available I'll buy a copy. anyone who tries to debate about a fighter that adam's written about can't do it. the account of their fights are catalogued, and he does the same for some of their main competition.

anyone who ever claims that peter jackson would easily beat john l. sullivan for instance, hasn't the facts to back them up, which you'd have if you had his sullivan book.
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