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Old 05-15-2011, 11:09 AM   #1
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perhaps a match with kelly pavlik
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pavlik or move down
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pavlik or move down

yeah i think if he can his management may want him to move back down
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Old 05-15-2011, 11:35 AM   #4
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Maybe take on one of the lesser champs like Stieglitz? To be honest he looked fairly disinterested last night when things started to turn against him. Retirement could be on the horoizon.
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retire or new coach - nothing else...he needs to regain what made him strong and that is self-confidence, iron will, good timing. Also, he needs to work on his endurance. He was tired after 2 rounds in the Ward fight...
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new coach - nothing else
This is valid for every boxer trained by Wegner.
I don't want to be smart or something, but i am saying this because a lot of times i am sorry for guys like Huck and Abraham. Every fighter trained by him knows how to keep his Hands up at all times, NEVER move his head, throw a jab here and there, telegraph-push a right hand and TAKE unnecessary punishment.
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Old 05-15-2011, 12:23 PM   #7
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after the froch fight didn't abraham say that froch was to big for him .perhaps he went into the ward fight with a negative mental attitude
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Old 05-15-2011, 01:32 PM   #8
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retire or new coach - nothing else...he needs to regain what made him strong and that is self-confidence, iron will, good timing. Also, he needs to work on his endurance. He was tired after 2 rounds in the Ward fight...
Good timing had a lot to do with guys just standing in front of him. Even at MW he had questionable timing against "slick" fighters like Ayala.

He could beat Stieglitz and thus lure Sturm in a catch weight fight at 164 lbs.
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Old 05-15-2011, 02:11 PM   #9
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he should move back to 160 and to let his hands go more
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Good timing had a lot to do with guys just standing in front of him. Even at MW he had questionable timing against "slick" fighters like Ayala.

He could beat Stieglitz and thus lure Sturm in a catch weight fight at 164 lbs.
Even if this is true for most of his fights at MW, his timing was a lot better and most important, he didn't hesitate to let his flurries go. The Abraham who fought Froch (who did a brilliant job) and Ward almost didn't throw any combos and if he did, the timing was bad. Against Ward he would've had a legit chance to win, if he would've let his hands go more often. It really seems he is scared of something. Where the hell were his flurries? I only counted a handfull. Even if AA never was a very active fighter his punch output seems to decrease. If he continues to fight like he did in his last fights, he is going to collect a lot more defeats. He needs a coach who works with him on his endurance in order to be more active and to increase his punch output. And he probably needs a psychologist who helps him to regain his fighting spirit and self-confidence...
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Even if this is true for most of his fights at MW, his timing was a lot better and most important, he didn't hesitate to let his flurries go. The Abraham who fought Froch (who did a brilliant job) and Ward almost didn't throw any combos and if he did, the timing was bad. Against Ward he would've had a legit chance to win, if he would've let his hands go more often. It really seems he is scared of something. Where the hell were his flurries? I only counted a handfull. Even if AA never was a very active fighter his punch output seems to decrease. If he continues to fight like he did in his last fights, he is going to collect a lot more defeats. He needs a coach who works with him on his endurance in order to be more active and to increase his punch output. And he probably needs a psychologist who helps him to regain his fighting spirit and self-confidence...


Spot on., he's become less and less active over the years (never had a high workrate to begin with) and the additional weight might have zapped more energy out of him cos he has to move more pounds through the ring now. His timing used to be one of his best assets back at Midldle really.

Sturm is a possibility imo, maybe the only fight he's got left, although after Abram's most recent losses the match could never be as big as it would have been had it come about 2 years ago.
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Old 05-15-2011, 04:34 PM   #12
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Retire.

I'm sick of him.
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Old 05-15-2011, 05:34 PM   #13
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The extra poundage has done him no favour's but in truth, he's been exposed, he just cant handle top level slick movers.
If he is to progress a new trainer is a must, but again after so long fighting the same way, it will take a massive effort to add something new.
It was bad luck to come up against three fighters with just the style to make him look so bad, he needs a good rest and a hard think.
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Old 05-15-2011, 11:16 PM   #14
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Pavlik would beat AA, and AA said he isnt moving back down to 160. He wouldnt hang with sergio, but wouldnt get KO'd.
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Old 05-16-2011, 03:46 AM   #15
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Pavlik would beat AA, and AA said he isnt moving back down to 160. He wouldnt hang with sergio, but wouldnt get KO'd.
While AA isn't a threat anymore, his chin is not questionable. I can't see him getting KO'd by anybody from MW to SMW. This would really surprise me big time to be honest.
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