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Old 11-28-2007, 09:34 AM   #1
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Default linear heavyweight title...try to help w/o lookin up

did this in class while i shouldve been listenin. see if you can help without lookin up...im slippin in b/w sullivan and dempsey

Lennox Lewis
Hasim Rahman
Lennonx Lewis
Shannon Briggs
George Foreman
Michael Moorer
Evander Holyfield
Riddick Bowe
Evander Holyfield
Buster Douglass
Mike Tyson
Michael Spinks
Larry Holmes
Muhammad Ali
Leon Spinks
Muhammad Ali
George Foreman
Joe Frazier
Muhammad Ali
Sonny Liston
Floyd Patterson
Ingo Johannsen
Floyd Patterson
Rocky Marciano
Joe Walcott
Ezzard Charles
Joe Louis
Jim Braddock
Max Baer
Primo Carnera
Jack Sharkey
Gene Tunney
Jack Dempsey


then a cluster in no order...

Bob Fitzsimmons
Jack Johnson
Jim Corbett
John L. Sullivan

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Old 11-28-2007, 09:36 AM   #2
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Dempsey beat Willard for the title.
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Old 11-28-2007, 09:36 AM   #3
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Willard beat Johnson.

Johnson beat Tommy Burns in Sydney.
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Old 11-28-2007, 09:38 AM   #4
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Jim Jeffries is in there somewhere as well.
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Old 11-28-2007, 09:46 AM   #5
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Marvin Hart beat former Light Heavyweight champ Jack Root for the vacant title in 1905.

Max Schmeling beat Jack Sharkey for the vacant title in 1930.

Ezzard Charles beat Jersey Joe Walcott in 1946 for Joe Louis' vacant title.

Floyd Patterson, who was a new contender, beat Archie Moore, who was old, for the vacant title.

Frazier beat Jimmy Ellis in 1970 for the vacant title. Although later he beat Ali, who had been the last champ.

Wlad vs. Iggy for recognition as Champ? After all:

-Wlad has already beaten former #1's like Brewster and Byrd, and has already beaten another recent top contender in Peter.
-Maskaev is old as **** and inactive. Chagaev will be fighting Skelton in a JOKE fight.
-This is also unification.
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Old 11-28-2007, 09:47 AM   #6
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Jim Jeffries is in there somewhere as well.
THATS who i couldnt remember...

for the LIFE of me I couldnt remember his damn name. good work guys...and NO LOOKING UP!
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Old 11-28-2007, 09:49 AM   #7
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Marvin Hart beat former Light Heavyweight champ Jack Root for the vacant title in 1905.

Max Schmeling beat Jack Sharkey for the vacant title in 1930.

Ezzard Charles beat Jersey Joe Walcott in 1946 for Joe Louis' vacant title.

Floyd Patterson, who was a new contender, beat Archie Moore, who was old, for the vacant title.

Frazier beat Jimmy Ellis in 1970 for the vacant title. Although later he beat Ali, who had been the last champ.

Wlad vs. Iggy for recognition as Champ? After all:

-Wlad has already beaten former #1's like Brewster and Byrd, and has already beaten another recent top contender in Peter.
-Maskaev is old as **** and inactive. Chagaev will be fighting Skelton in a JOKE fight.
-This is also unification.
good work, i couldnt remember where schmeling fit into it all...and I know sharkey was champ at one point, cant remember when tho.
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Old 11-28-2007, 09:50 AM   #8
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I know Johnson beat Jeffries after Jeffries came back from retirement. Have no idea though who Jeffries won the title from without looking it up.
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Old 11-28-2007, 09:50 AM   #9
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The early era is like this:

Corbett (beat Sullivan for the first title under Queensberry rules, so I count him as first champ)
Fitzsimmons
Jeffries (retires)
Marvin Hart
Tommy Burns
Jack Johnson
Jess Willard
Jack Dempsey
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Old 11-28-2007, 09:56 AM   #10
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The early era is like this:

Corbett (beat Sullivan for the first title under Queensberry rules, so I count him as first champ)
Fitzsimmons
Jeffries (retires)
Marvin Hart
Tommy Burns
Jack Johnson
Jess Willard
Jack Dempsey
You know your shit sir...
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Old 11-28-2007, 10:09 AM   #11
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I completely agree my friend! Given today's "state of the game" in the division (with all the politics ans such) I think this is the fight to determine THE champion. I just hope the press steps up and recognizes the winner...

- both are former Olympic medalists with stellar ametuer pedigrees
- both are current titlists
- both are in the RING (and everybody else's) top 10
- both have defeated several top American contenders (meaning they are NOT "protected Euros")

Wlad is unanimously seen as THE BEST in the division, and Iggy is an undefeated titlist in everybody's top ten - so why not? Wlad has already beat the guy who will probably (eventually) wind up as the WBC champ, and the WBA title won't be given up by the crooked Germans - so this is as good as it gets people!!! The sprt NEEDS a heavyweight champion!!!
I agree, Wlad is already the #1 recognized champion, so after this unification there would be no question whos the real champ.
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Old 11-28-2007, 10:13 AM   #12
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I know Sullivan to Spinks off by heart, its one of my (admittedly sad) party pieces....it all gets a bit messy after Spinks though...
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Old 11-28-2007, 10:19 AM   #13
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Here's the order you're missing before Dempsey:

1. John L. Sullivan
2. Jim Corbett
3. Bob Fitzsimmons
4. Jim Jeffries
5. Marvin Hart
6. Tommy Burns
7. Jack Johnson
8. Jess Willard
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Old 11-28-2007, 10:49 AM   #14
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Here's the order you're missing before Dempsey:

1. John L. Sullivan
2. Jim Corbett
3. Bob Fitzsimmons
4. Jim Jeffries
5. Marvin Hart
6. Tommy Burns
7. Jack Johnson
8. Jess Willard
This is right
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Old 11-28-2007, 10:56 AM   #15
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Did Foreman retire shortly after beating Axel Schulz and then make a comeback in 1996? I'm sure he did, because if he did then the lineage from that point shouldnt be:

Foreman, Briggs, Lewis , Rahman , Lewis, V.Klitschko

it should be :

Foreman , Holyfield (after Foreman relinquished his alphabet titles , Foreman beat the highest contenders around at that time) , Lewis , Rahman , Lewis and so on.

Someone give an insight please
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