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Old 05-22-2011, 01:14 AM   #31
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Joe Calzaghe squandered his career defending his worthless WBO belt against tomato cans in his own backyard and nobody outside of partisan limeys rates him for shit. Facts. Sorry.
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Old 05-22-2011, 01:14 AM   #32
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hopkins would have beaten joe in the rematch... that's why calzaghe didn't want it
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Old 05-22-2011, 01:14 AM   #33
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Joe Calzaghe= Overhyped
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Old 05-22-2011, 01:15 AM   #34
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Taylor fought Hopkins at Middleweight.

Calzaghe fought Hopkins at Light Heavyweight.

There's a difference there.
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You know who's stock really goes up? Jermain Taylor. He beat Hopkins years before Calzaghe and even did it at Middleweight - TWICE! Plus, like Calzaghe, they were totally clear decisions.
You don't say...
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Old 05-22-2011, 01:16 AM   #35
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You knew this was gonna happen if Hopkins won the fight.

Remember when Pacquiao won last week and the Flomo's locked up ESB?
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Old 05-22-2011, 01:17 AM   #36
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Beating an undefeated fighter is different than defeating a once-beaten fighter. We both know that.

It's the same reason Pascal gets more credit for defeating Diaconu than does Dawson: The blueprint was already there, and the former-unbeaten's aura is already shattered.
Not necessarily, but sure I get that it was a worse version. There was no real stolen blueprint. Ward did it in his own way, and in a much better way than Calslappy did.

You always got to start something. Not getting a lot of fan-fare on this one, but then again who knows what you want. Not bad, trolling.

And as another poster said, does that apply to all the other opponents Hopkins lost to, and at a much younger age than Calslappy?
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Quit being a dick rider. at the end of the fight, calzaghe thought he lost, his father thought he lost and was cussing him out the whole latter half of the fight, and calzaghe ran into retirement like a bitch even tho hopkins was willing to fight him in his own back yard. you guys act like getting sat on your ass and receiving credit for landing punches that no other fighter in the sport gets credit for is an amazing win. calghe's a bitch and will forever be remembered as less than hopkins. the fact that his resume is so dependent on one man shows how weak it is.
How do you know Calzaghe thought he lost? Anybody would look nervous in that situation. It was a close fight and Joe could have lost for the first time. How would you react?

Enzo is always shouting and screaming. He was worked up throughout the Lacy and Kessler fights. Obviously in Hopkins fight things were more tense.

Steward told Dawson he was losing so that Chad up his game. Enzo was doing the same.
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Old 05-22-2011, 01:20 AM   #38
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There is a rumour that a certain judge scores in favour of black fighters...she was the only judge who saw Hopkins winning...
You said it, not me. And she had it 6-6.

I had it same as Lederman: 9-3 for Calz.

Calzaghe dominated from like the 4th round on. Hopkins only won like one round after. It was actually like Calz/Kessler: Once Calz found his rhythm, the fight was over.
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Old 05-22-2011, 01:21 AM   #39
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You know who's stock really goes up? Jermain Taylor. He beat Hopkins years before Calzaghe and even did it at Middleweight - TWICE! Plus, like Calzaghe, they were totally clear decisions.
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He's right if you judge that way.
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Old 05-22-2011, 01:22 AM   #41
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You said it, not me. And she had it 6-6.

I had it same as Lederman: 9-3 for Calz.

Calzaghe dominated from like the 4th round on. Hopkins only won like one round after. It was actually like Calz/Kessler: Once Calz found his rhythm, the fight was over.

I was doing some research and actually found the facebook group that was saying the judge in question was racist...I found that far fetched though it was interesting with 3 American judges only 1 favoured the American fighter...
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Old 05-22-2011, 01:24 AM   #42
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Old 05-22-2011, 01:25 AM   #43
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Taylor fought Hopkins at Middleweight.

Calzaghe fought Hopkins at Light Heavyweight.

There's a difference there.
Another excellent point. AND Calzaghe took on Hopkins -- at LHW -- after Hopkins absolutely tooled Tarver at 175.
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Another excellent point. AND Calzaghe took on Hopkins -- at LHW -- after Hopkins absolutely tooled Tarver at 175.
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Old 05-22-2011, 01:26 AM   #45
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This is obviously something certain esb posters will always have a hard time swallowing.

These so-called fans, esb runts as they're commonly known, will be celebrating Hopkins' latest triumph for months, possibly years, while still stubbornly and foolishly refusing to even acknowledge Calzaghe's greatness. It's highly illogical.
You achieve greatness through uncommon accomplishments. CAlzaghe's legacy is poor. He is not in anyway shape or form great.

What Hopkins accomplished tonight is how you define greatness.
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