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Old 11-29-2007, 12:18 AM   #16
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I think if Floyd has a good showing against Hatton that he will in fact target Miguel Cotto. Or we could hear another tearful retirement speech after the Hatton fight. But Cotto is a safer and smarter fight for Mayweather. I see Mayweather absolutely carving Cotto up and I'm a big fan of Cotto. Miguel's improving fundamentals and raw explosive punching are enough to outlast MOST of the elite welters but I just can't see him beating Floyd. Floyd will make him miss all night and punish him in the process. Paul Williams on the other hand may pose more of a stylistic problem for PBF than Cotto would. Hate to say it but "styles make fights".
I'm not so sure he would carve Cotto up. Cotto may have the best jab in the division, quick with a lot of snap. I think Coto would give Floyd problems with the jab and his power.

I would still favor Floyd though
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Old 11-29-2007, 12:19 AM   #17
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Equal? Who said they have equalled what PBF has done?

if they have not equaled what floyd has done then how is it that he needs to fight them to secure a legacy the fact that shit holes like yourself are praying that he loses before he retires is what fuels threads like these
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Old 11-29-2007, 12:20 AM   #18
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all up and coming and all better wins then cotto and williams




floyd is a 5 weight champion by 30 how many titles has cotto won williams is 26 and has only 1 title.




mosley is not even on floyd's level as far as accomnplishments go. floyd has five titles and mosley has three. cotto only has 2 paper titles to his name are you saying cotto is more accomplished then oscar de la hoya
Right now Floyd is THE champion no doubt, he beat Baldo and Baldo was Linear, but he should fight Cotto after this. A win over Miguel would look very nice on his record.
You have gotten better Bigtime, but that didn't answer his post at all. He was talking about up and coming competition at WW right now, not PBF's overall competition, he was saying Cotto's win over Mosley might be bigger than any win that PBF has on his resume, not that Cotto is more accomplished than anyone PBF has beaten.
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Old 11-29-2007, 12:21 AM   #19
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if they have not equaled what floyd has done then how is it that he needs to fight them to secure a legacy the fact that shit holes like yourself are praying that he loses before he retires is what fuels threads like these
Because if Floyd wants to be considerd the the GOAT he needs these fights.
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Old 11-29-2007, 12:23 AM   #20
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Right now Floyd is THE champion no doubt, he beat Baldo and Baldo was Linear, but he should fight Cotto after this. A win over Miguel would look very nice on his record.
No doubt that he is the Champ . . . question is . . . what now?

He's going to retirement again and duck the other title holders?

That's right he needs to fight Cotto and Williams . . . this is what the thread is all about.
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Old 11-29-2007, 12:25 AM   #21
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He was talking about up and coming competition at WW right now, not the competition from 130, he was saying Cotto's win over Mosley might be bigger than any win that PBF has on his resume, not that Cotto is more accomplished than anyone PBF has beaten.
i know exactly what he was saying. but he is full of shit. mosley is 36 years old and hasn't been a "champion" at 147 in over 5 years. so there is no way cotto beating mosley is better than floyd beating baldomir who was THE champion.

the **** boys on this board try and discredit floyd's competition at 147 but floyd has beaten champions at 147 cotto has not

oh and kg you can go **** yourself with that "you have gotten better routine" that is psych 101
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Old 11-29-2007, 12:27 AM   #22
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Because if Floyd wants to be considerd the the GOAT he needs these fights.
you don't become the greatest of all time by beating contenders like williams and cotto. hagler didn't become an ATG by beating mugabi cotto and williams have to fight each other to become great once the last man is standing then they will face floyd to become a new legend or a never was
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Old 11-29-2007, 12:27 AM   #23
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Floyd fought Zab and they said he is ducking Baldomir and Hatton. He Won.

Floyd fought Baldomir and they said he is ducking Mosley, Hatton, Margarito. He Won.

Floyd fought DLH and they said he is ducking Mosley, Margarito, Cotto, etc. He Won.

Floyd said he could get more than 9 mill which is what Margo offered, people said bs....Killed that.

Floyd is now fighting Hatton and they say he is ducking Cotto and Williams.

Has anybody fought tougher opposition over the last four fights?
Judah
Baldomir
De La Hoya
Hatton

No.....It's the same shit....just a different fight....A while back the flavor was Baldomir....then Margo....then Shane....now Cotto...if Floyd beats Hatton easily, you really think he can't box circles around Cotto - What if Shane were a few years younger against Miguel? Think Floyd Now.
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Old 11-29-2007, 12:28 AM   #24
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To the guy who said 'the fans only want to see him lose before he retires' is correct. Floyd could never retire. There will always be someone he ducked according to irrational boxing fans.
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Old 11-29-2007, 12:29 AM   #25
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i know exactly what he was saying. but he is full of shit. mosley is 36 years old and hasn't been a "champion" at 147 in over 5 years. so there is no way cotto beating mosley is better than floyd beating baldomir who was THE champion.

the **** boys on this board try and discredit floyd's competition at 147 but floyd has beaten champions at 147 cotto has not

oh and kg you can go **** yourself with that "you have gotten better routine" that is psych 101
Whatever....not my problem. Look foolish, like I said, you didn't answer his post. You had gotten better. Psych 101 is too complicated to explain you...your case is simpler.
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Floyd fought Zab and they said he is ducking Baldomir and Hatton. He Won.

Floyd fought Baldomir and they said he is ducking Mosley, Hatton, Margarito. He Won.

Floyd fought DLH and they said he is ducking Mosley, Margarito, Cotto, etc. He Won.

Floyd said he could get more than 9 mill which is what Margo offered, people said bs....Killed that.

Floyd is now fighting Hatton and they say he is ducking Cotto and Williams.

Has anybody fought tougher opposition over the last four fights?
Judah
Baldomir
De La Hoya
Hatton

No.....It's the same shit....just a different fight....A while back the flavor was Baldomir....then Margo....then Shane....now Cotto...if Floyd beats Hatton easily, you really think he can't box circles around Cotto - What if Shane were a few years younger against Miguel? Think Floyd Now.
Great post. I've been saying the same things til I went blue in the face.
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Old 11-29-2007, 12:30 AM   #27
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Floyd fought Zab and they said he is ducking Baldomir and Hatton. He Won.

Floyd fought Baldomir and they said he is ducking Mosley, Hatton, Margarito. He Won.

Floyd fought DLH and they said he is ducking Mosley, Margarito, Cotto, etc. He Won.

Floyd said he could get more than 9 mill which is what Margo offered, people said bs....Killed that.

Floyd is now fighting Hatton and they say he is ducking Cotto and Williams.

Has anybody fought tougher opposition over the last four fights?
Judah
Baldomir
De La Hoya
Hatton

No.....It's the same shit....just a different fight....A while back the flavor was Baldomir....then Margo....then Shane....now Cotto...if Floyd beats Hatton easily, you really think he can't box circles around Cotto - What if Shane were a few years younger against Miguel? Think Floyd Now.
Nobody is saying he is ducking Cotto and Williams . . . none yet. Wait for an offer and a negotiation then we can make judgement.

The thread says What if?
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Old 11-29-2007, 12:31 AM   #28
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Nobody is saying he is ducking Cotto and Williams . . . none yet. Wait for a an offer and a negotiation then we can make judgement.

The thread says What if?
Understood...Im just saying we have all read this script before...
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Old 11-29-2007, 12:32 AM   #29
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No doubt that he is the Champ . . . question is . . . what now?

He's going to retirement again and duck the other title holders?

That's right he needs to fight Cotto and Williams . . . this is what the thread is all about.
sorry but this thread is about haters hating floyd and wanting him to lose to a fighter they think can take him. if he beats cotto and williams he will still get no credit for the victories if you beat oscar de la hoya nd ricky hatton in the same year what makes you think fighting cotto and williams in the same year will top that

it's not about ducking it's about what is the point. a hater like yourself will always find an excuse to denigrate floyd's accomplishments
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Old 11-29-2007, 12:33 AM   #30
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all up and coming and all better wins then cotto and williams

floyd is a 5 weight champion by 30 how many titles has cotto won williams is 26 and has only 1 title.

mosley is not even on floyd's level as far as accomnplishments go. floyd has five titles and mosley has three. cotto only has 2 paper titles to his name are you saying cotto is more accomplished then oscar de la hoya
You name me a fighter more deserving than Cotto of a title shot? I guess all fighters that become champion should retire immediately because they accomplished more than the challengers below them.

Baldo a bigger win than Mosley , I will give credit where credit is due Baldo was the man and had to be taken care of but do you really think that version of Baldo was better than the Mosley Cotto just beat?
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