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Old 05-28-2011, 12:04 PM   #31
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Old 05-28-2011, 12:15 PM   #32
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Have you seen the submission match? Nelson was able to do a lot of things he wouldn't have been able to in an mma bout because he didn't have to worry about getting punched while on the bottom.

This bout is going to be won or lost during the stand-up, in my opinion. I don't think that Mir's boxing is as good as Arlovski's nor Dos Santos', but I think he hits harder. I'm picking Mir to land too many shots, and set up a finish. Nelson has the chance of catching Mir and koing him, as well. Nelson will probably wear Mir down if this fights makes it well into the 2nd. It's close to pick em for me, but I think Nelson's willingness to get hit will be his undoing in this one.
You think Mir hits harder than Dos Santos?
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Old 05-28-2011, 12:32 PM   #33
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You think Mir hits harder than Dos Santos?
Yes. There are plenty of heavyweights that hit harder than Dos Santos. Dos Santos has better boxing, agility, and overall speed than Mir. Dos Santos does not have amazing one punch power. That was evident in the fight with Nelson. How well did Nelson stand up to Arlovski's shots? I would thought you'd be more surprised that I think Mir hits harder than Arlovski.

No one has dropped Nog or Kongo as easily as Mir. Sure Nogueira was not at his best, but Nog ate several of Velasquez's shots cleanly before getting dropped.

Anyone over 200 lbs has the chance of ending a fight with a single blow, but that doesn't mean that all heavyweights are on a level playing field in this regard. Can Dos Santos end the fight with one punch? Yes. Is Dos Santos' punch as devastating as someone like Carwin's? No.
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Old 05-28-2011, 12:49 PM   #34
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Have you seen the submission match? Nelson was able to do a lot of things he wouldn't have been able to in an mma bout because he didn't have to worry about getting punched while on the bottom.

This bout is going to be won or lost during the stand-up, in my opinion. I don't think that Mir's boxing is as good as Arlovski's nor Dos Santos', but I think he hits harder. I'm picking Mir to land too many shots, and set up a finish. Nelson has the chance of catching Mir and koing him, as well. Nelson will probably wear Mir down if this fights makes it well into the 2nd. It's close to pick em for me, but I think Nelson's willingness to get hit will be his undoing in this one.
Yeah it's not the greatest match... Nelson looks semi-slim and has no mullet

I'd give Nelson the power and Mir the skill TBH.

Either way i can see the fight ending by Kayo

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Old 05-28-2011, 12:56 PM   #35
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I think Roy is the only person ever to change from a mullet to a worse hair cut

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Old 05-28-2011, 12:57 PM   #36
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Old 05-28-2011, 01:04 PM   #37
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Yes. There are plenty of heavyweights that hit harder than Dos Santos. Dos Santos has better boxing, agility, and overall speed than Mir. Dos Santos does not have amazing one punch power. That was evident in the fight with Nelson.
no one has cleanly KOed Roy nelson and that must mean he got a good chin.
now if you say that arlovski did it well he wasnt out when he went down, he didnt have the gas tank that he has now.

JDS finished werdum with 1 punch.
broke CC orbital bone or whatever bone that is under his eye.
he KOed Gonzaga.
stefan and yvel went to sleep like small children.

how can you say that jds dosnt have power in his hands?
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Old 05-28-2011, 01:10 PM   #38
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how can you say that jds dosnt have power in his hands?
He didnt say that, read it again
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Old 05-28-2011, 01:20 PM   #39
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He didnt say that, read it again
he even got amazing power imo
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no way Mir hits harder then Cigano that's just absurd.
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Old 05-28-2011, 02:28 PM   #41
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no one has cleanly KOed Roy nelson and that must mean he got a good chin.
now if you say that arlovski did it well he wasnt out when he went down, he didnt have the gas tank that he has now.

JDS finished werdum with 1 punch.
broke CC orbital bone or whatever bone that is under his eye.
he KOed Gonzaga.
stefan and yvel went to sleep like small children.

how can you say that jds dosnt have power in his hands?
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Old 05-28-2011, 02:36 PM   #42
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Mir's left is very dangerous:

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he was tired as hell and that was in the late 2nd round if my memory serves me right and if you watched the 2nd round you could see how ****ing gassed he was, it took his strength just to stand up.
yes he got rocked and dropped but was he out?
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no one has cleanly KOed Roy nelson and that must mean he got a good chin.
now if you say that arlovski did it well he wasnt out when he went down, he didnt have the gas tank that he has now.

JDS finished werdum with 1 punch.
broke CC orbital bone or whatever bone that is under his eye.
he KOed Gonzaga.
stefan and yvel went to sleep like small children.

how can you say that jds dosnt have power in his hands?
Well, he didn't say that JDS doesn't have power in his hands, he didn't say anything like that, but I still agree with the rest of your post. I think rekcutnevets (unsure of spelling) is underrating JDS and overrating Mir in this regard.
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Old 05-28-2011, 03:11 PM   #45
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he was tired as hell and that was in the late 2nd round if my memory serves me right and if you watched the 2nd round you could see how ****ing gassed he was, it took his strength just to stand up.
yes he got rocked and dropped but was he out?
Yup. Well, he may still have been conscious, but he was flat on the ground in no position to continue, so to me that is a KO.
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