Will you consider the Wlad-Haye Superfight winner to be "World Heavyweight Champion"? - Page 4

icemax · 06-30-2011, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by hussleman

The linear champ, yes!

bremen · 06-30-2011, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by lufcrazy

No the winner is just number 1 ranked heavyweight. The winner would need to face the winner of vitali - adamek to create a new lineage

Vitali repeatedly said Wlad is better than him so I think that settles it doesn't it?

volkan · 06-30-2011, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Kalasinn

Wlad is Ring Magazine, IBF & WBO Heavyweight champion. (IBO is a ploystyrene title)

Why is IBO a ploystyrene title?
But hey, if the IBO is a ploystyrene title, then The Ring Magazine certainly is too.

And if you want to nag on the titles. Then again I dont give a thing about the WBO title either.

The WBA, WBC & IBF titles are the only ones who counts.

thesandman · 06-30-2011, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by lufcrazy

No the winner is just number 1 ranked heavyweight. The winner would need to face the winner of vitali - adamek to create a new lineage

Yep.

Blizz42 · 06-30-2011, 11:06 PM

No. Vitali has been the best heavy since Lewis imo.

thesandman · 06-30-2011, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 11player

Wlad unified WBO, IBF, IBO and WBA already, considering he beat Chagaev when he was reigning champion and the only reason he was not recognized is politics, being the WBA a DKP owned organization.
The only fight he didn't take was his brother.
For Christ sake! when you climb up the ring you go for the kill, how are you gonna do such a thing against your brother, it's insane to demand that.

Wlad has donne it all, you can't get more linear then this these days. I see a lot of guys called linear for lesser achievements.

Let's extract that a little.

The only reason Lennox Lewis didn't have the IBF and WBA when he retired, was due to boxing politics.

So really, Wlad doesn't have the IBF (as technically it wasn't Byrds to have at the time he won it), nor the WBA (as again, the whole Ruiz fiasco would never have happened).

So, if you want to go down that path, Wlad is the WBO champion only.

This game is too easy.

Kalasinn · 07-01-2011, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Blizz42

No. Vitali has been the best heavy since Lewis imo.

The 4 year injury layoff allowed Wlad to overtake him for "Heavyweight Champion Greatness" though.

However, Vitali does have the WBC title, the oldest & most prestigious alphabet org title.

the_baller · 07-01-2011, 04:55 PM

They would still have to beat Vitali to be THE champ.

Kalasinn · 07-02-2011, 07:30 AM

Bumped for sexiness.

dkwrtw · 07-02-2011, 07:32 AM

Haye would have to beat both Klitschko's before I would think of him as THE CHAMP.

Kalasinn · 07-02-2011, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by dkwrtw

Haye would have to beat both Klitschko's before I would think of him as THE CHAMP.

I certainly don't see that happening!

Chance i give Haye to defeat Peak Wlad: 20%

Chance i give Haye to defeat Old Vitali: 10%*

(*if he beats Wlad, 5% otherwise)

dkwrtw · 07-02-2011, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Kalasinn

I certainly don't see that happening!

Chance i give Haye to defeat Peak Wlad: 20%

Chance i give Haye to defeat Old Vitali: 10%*

(*if he beats Wlad, 5% otherwise)

Agreed with this. There will not be a HW CHAMPION OF THE WORLD because the Klitschko's will not fight eachother, the only way a HW CHAMPION OF THE WORLD can truly be crowned is if Haye wins today.

Boxed Ears · 07-02-2011, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Kalasinn

The 4 year injury layoff allowed Wlad to overtake him for "Heavyweight Champion Greatness" though.

However, Vitali does have the WBC title, the oldest & most prestigious alphabet org title.

Listen, Voidtali fanboy. I've already indirectly debunked this in another thread.

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The_President · 07-02-2011, 07:55 AM

LOL, this is certainly no Super fight. It just appears so since the Klits have held the HW belts in absolute boredom for the last 5 years. Any excitement from that direction is easily misinterpreted as extraordinary, but in reality, it's just an average bout between two average fighters.

Kalasinn · 07-02-2011, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Boxed Ears

Listen, Voidtali fanboy. I've already indirectly debunked this in another thread.

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'Ears strikes again!

View Poll Results: Will you consider the Wlad-Haye winner to be "World Heavyweight Champion"?
Yes, the winner will be the World Champ.	90	38.14%
Wladimir already is the World Champ.	88	37.29%
No, the winner will still need Vitali's WBC title to be World Champ.	58	24.58%
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06-30-2011, 11:06 PM	#50
Blizz42 Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 2,329 vCash: 500	Re: Will you consider the Wlad-Haye Superfight winner to be "World Heavyweight Champi No. Vitali has been the best heavy since Lewis imo.
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the_baller Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 3,630 vCash: 500	Re: Will you consider the Wlad-Haye Superfight winner to be "World Heavyweight Champi They would still have to beat Vitali to be THE champ.
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Kalasinn ♧ OG Kally ♤ East Side VIP Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: from parts unknown Posts: 10,657 vCash: 1200	Re: Will you consider the Wlad-Haye Superfight winner to be "World Heavyweight Champi Bumped for sexiness.
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dkwrtw YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND ESB Jr Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Oregon Posts: 100 vCash: 84	Re: Will you consider the Wlad-Haye Superfight winner to be "World Heavyweight Champi Haye would have to beat both Klitschko's before I would think of him as THE CHAMP.
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07-02-2011, 07:55 AM	#59
The_President Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 4,109 vCash: 500	Re: Will you consider the Wlad-Haye Superfight winner to be "World Heavyweight Champi LOL, this is certainly no Super fight. It just appears so since the Klits have held the HW belts in absolute boredom for the last 5 years. Any excitement from that direction is easily misinterpreted as extraordinary, but in reality, it's just an average bout between two average fighters.
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