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Old 05-30-2011, 11:28 AM   #16
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Thats why I'm not really enjoying his fights. Frank is fighting more to his opponents weakness than his strengths. He does it well but it's not great to watch if I'm honest. Very well rounded these days but needs to show it against one of the big men.
I'd push for a fight against the Carwin vs Dos Santos loser. He stands a good chance against Carwin IF HE'LL STAY OUT OF A CLINCH AND USE HIS BRAZILIAN JUJITSU!!
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Name 3 heavyweights who are more of a natural fighter...
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Old 05-30-2011, 12:02 PM   #18
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Overeem? Seriously?
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Old 05-30-2011, 12:50 PM   #19
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Name 3 heavyweights who are more of a natural fighter...
Mate i can name 20 heavy's who are more natural fighters than Mir. Even a prime Coleman was a thousand times more a natural born fighter than Mir.
Mir has the mental fortitude of a marsh mellow. Every time he's lost he's been thoroughly brutalised. Mentally he just crumbles and physically he just wilts. That's not the hall mark of a natural fighter.
Shit Frank's career in MA only started because he was a fat kid trying to control his weight. Natural fighter my ass.
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Old 05-30-2011, 12:53 PM   #20
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Overeem? Seriously?
You don;t know what a natural fighter is, watch frank mir get smashed by ian freeman and come back when you have any idea about fighting or mma.
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Old 05-30-2011, 12:56 PM   #21
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Overeem? Seriously?
Yes seriously. I don't believe this even warrants an explanation.
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Old 05-30-2011, 12:58 PM   #22
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You don;t know what a natural fighter is, watch frank mir get smashed by ian freeman and come back when you have any idea about fighting or mma.
Not just Freeman. Pe De Pano. Lesnar. And Vera. Every time this guys lost he doesn't get just beat he gets a Wandy Rampage PRIDEesque style career beat down. Mir is sooo overrated its tragic.
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Old 05-30-2011, 01:03 PM   #23
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People hate on Mir because he often acts like a douche, plain and simple.

Mir is good fighter, though. Sure he can be stopped, and is prone to gassing out; but he is still very dangerous standing and on the ground. Mir is a solid top 10 heavy, and may occasionally upset a top 5 fighter if given enough opportunity.
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Old 05-30-2011, 01:11 PM   #24
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Not being an asshole at all but I know more about combat and fighting than I care to know givin my experiences. How can you say Mir isn't a naturally gifted fighter? You say he got into MMA by accident? Yet still became a 2 time world champion? That's not a natural fighter? Just look at the timeframe of getting his bjj Blackbelt.
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Old 05-30-2011, 01:13 PM   #25
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Not just Freeman. Pe De Pano. Lesnar. And Vera. Every time this guys lost he doesn't get just beat he gets a Wandy Rampage PRIDEesque style career beat down. Mir is sooo overrated its tragic.
I used freeman because no bullshit injury excuses could be pulled out.
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Old 05-30-2011, 01:14 PM   #26
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Not being an asshole at all but I know more about combat and fighting than I care to know givin my experiences. How can you say Mir isn't a naturally gifted fighter? You say he got into MMA by accident? Yet still became a 2 time world champion? That's not a natural fighter? Just look at the timeframe of getting his bjj Blackbelt.
No fighting is different than bjj, he is a naturally gifted bjj artist not fighter big difference.
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Old 05-30-2011, 01:20 PM   #27
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No fighting is different than bjj, he is a naturally gifted bjj artist not fighter big difference.
Well look at his improved striking... he's become a awesome Kickboxer in a short amount of time.. He has natural gifts. Perhaps me saying the MOST naturally gifted was overboard but to say he isn't talented naturally is asinine.
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Not being an asshole at all but I know more about combat and fighting than I care to know givin my experiences. How can you say Mir isn't a naturally gifted fighter? You say he got into MMA by accident? Yet still became a 2 time world champion? That's not a natural fighter? Just look at the timeframe of getting his bjj Blackbelt.

The guy is just awful, why defend him? White telling us his HW division is 'stacked'. Stacked with what exactly?
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Old 05-30-2011, 01:24 PM   #29
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Well look at his improved striking... he's become a awesome Kickboxer in a short amount of time.. He has natural gifts. Perhaps me saying the MOST naturally gifted was overboard but to say he isn't talented naturally is asinine.
He isn't a fighter what part don't you get,just like brock lesnar he is a good athlete with natural skill but fighting does not come naturally to them.
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Old 05-30-2011, 01:29 PM   #30
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Ok. Some people just don't see it but hey, I'll always be a fan. Perhaps you should train MMA and you'll be suprised how many people in MMA, according to you, aren't fighters.
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