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Old 05-30-2011, 01:48 PM   #31
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Ok. Some people just don't see it but hey, I'll always be a fan. Perhaps you should train MMA and you'll be suprised how many people in MMA, according to you, aren't fighters.
I have trained mma with at least 3 people that have or do fight in ufc or strikeforce and i know the difference between being skilled in a sport and being a natural fighter you obviously don't. You don;t seem to even understand your own posts, a natural fighter is someone who has a fighting instinct something they are born with, its not something that you can learn by training martial arts.
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Old 05-30-2011, 01:52 PM   #32
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Not being an asshole at all but I know more about combat and fighting than I care to know givin my experiences. How can you say Mir isn't a naturally gifted fighter? You say he got into MMA by accident? Yet still became a 2 time world champion? That's not a natural fighter? Just look at the timeframe of getting his bjj Blackbelt.
None of that matters. So he's a two time UFC champion? So what? Mir is NOT a natural fighter point blank point simple. If you want to see a natural fighter look no further than the man who own's that nickname Randy Couture.
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Old 05-31-2011, 01:00 AM   #33
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Overeem? Seriously?
how is overeem not natural? He ate horse meat and had a consistent diet for 2 years and his natural body weight is heavyweight anyway.
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Old 05-31-2011, 11:56 AM   #34
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People from the 209 aren't smart are they?
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Old 05-31-2011, 01:59 PM   #35
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People from the 209 aren't smart are they?
You made a post and then tried arguing when you didn't even understand the post you made.
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Old 05-31-2011, 04:13 PM   #36
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No I understand my post and just let it go because you have made your points... simple as that.
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Old 05-31-2011, 04:28 PM   #37
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he needs to be lighter and have better cardio. velasquez and jds will bulldoze him. carwin and brock already have. if he doesn't improve then that ishim out of the picture.
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Old 05-31-2011, 04:45 PM   #38
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he needs to be lighter and have better cardio. velasquez and jds will bulldoze him. carwin and brock already have. if he doesn't improve then that ishim out of the picture.
I don't understand why he thinks he's more effective at 260lbs. There's just no need for the excess weight. If he wants to add strongman routines to his training fine. But 260lbs is excessive.
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Old 05-31-2011, 05:21 PM   #39
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Id like him to get around 235-240
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Old 05-31-2011, 06:06 PM   #40
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Overeem? No way............... That guy has more to do with juicing than any other fighter I can think of. No exactly "naturally gifted" per se.

He's still a good fighter by the way, don't get me wrong.
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Old 05-31-2011, 06:11 PM   #41
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Mate i can name 20 heavy's who are more natural fighters than Mir. Even a prime Coleman was a thousand times more a natural born fighter than Mir.
Mir has the mental fortitude of a marsh mellow. Every time he's lost he's been thoroughly brutalised. Mentally he just crumbles and physically he just wilts. That's not the hall mark of a natural fighter.
Shit Frank's career in MA only started because he was a fat kid trying to control his weight. Natural fighter my ass.
That's waaay too harsh on Frank Mir.

He has tons of knowledge & listening to his commentary during fights shows this. He's very well rounded, comfortable standing & striking, or on the mat with subs & gnp. He has the brains to go with good overall size. If I had to complain about his weakness it's cardio and possibly a touch of mental.

That's being 100% fair I believe.
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Old 05-31-2011, 06:33 PM   #42
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That's waaay too harsh on Frank Mir.

He has tons of knowledge & listening to his commentary during fights shows this. He's very well rounded, comfortable standing & striking, or on the mat with subs & gnp. He has the brains to go with good overall size. If I had to complain about his weakness it's cardio and possibly a touch of mental.

That's being 100% fair I believe.
I think thats what they are trying to say though. As a fighter he maybe be technically gifted/natural. But he hasnt got that mental fighting edge i dont think, he understands fighting but he isnt a warrior (or at least has done nothing to me to suggest that he is). For all his faults Diaz is a genuine warrior you saw it in his eyes when Daley tagged him thats what i think Mir hasnt got for all his technical skill.
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Old 05-31-2011, 09:56 PM   #43
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Ok I can agree with that... I don't think its his heart, I just don't know if he's ever properly learned what to do when hurt. He gets tagged and tries to fight back but looks clueless.
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Old 06-01-2011, 02:47 AM   #44
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I don't understand why he thinks he's more effective at 260lbs. There's just no need for the excess weight. If he wants to add strongman routines to his training fine. But 260lbs is excessive.
he is 6'3 which is big but not 260 pounds big. i would a 6'3 guy should be between 220 and 245. frank mir isn't built like carwin or lesnar who are roughly the same height but built in a TOTALLY different way.
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Old 06-01-2011, 02:51 AM   #45
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Id like him to get around 235-240
yea that would be ideal as he would be more mobile and quicker.
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