Emanuele Della Rosa vs. Daniel Urbanski & Ville Piispanen vs. Vittorio Oi, 6/3/11

IntentionalButt · 05-31-2011, 09:04 PM

This is taking place Friday in a suburb of Rome, with both the WBC 154lb Int'l title and the European 140lb title on the line. Both are pretty decent match-ups. Each features a homegrown boxer (one a "champion", one challenging) against foreigners.

Does anyone know the start time, or whether it will be televised in parts of Europe? Urbanski and Piispanen hail from Poland and Finland respectively, and while neither is anywhere close to being one of the top 5 most recognizable names in their country they are both good young fighters.

I'd think that this was worth some airtime somewhere.

Goodhill · 06-01-2011, 12:13 AM

Italian television is airing this one , I'm not sure which channel but TV is there.

I'm going to this one. It's 50-50 fight for Piispanen vs Oi. Ville hasn't got too many KO -victories, but I'm still hoping for a big win for the Finn.

IntentionalButt · 06-02-2011, 11:34 AM

Goodhill, do you know the approximate time(s) for the co-main events?

Goodhill · 06-02-2011, 12:29 PM

It´s (Piispanen vs Oi) app. 11 PM Finnish time (EEST or GMT +3 hours) and Della Rosa -fight after that.

SPORTITALIA will broadcast it.

IntentionalButt · 06-02-2011, 12:45 PM

Darn. I probably won't be out of work in time for Piispanen vs. Oi - and that's the one I was more excited for. I'm keenly interested in Ville; he impressed me with his effort and showed promise against Rasilla even though he only managed a draw. Work in progress, but could become pretty good IMO.

Oh well.

Thanks GH.

Enjoy the action.

JFT96 · 06-02-2011, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Goodhill

Italian television is airing this one , I'm not sure which channel but TV is there.

I'm going to this one. It's 50-50 fight for Piispanen vs Oi. Ville hasn't got too many KO -victories, but I'm still hoping for a big win for the Finn.

Good on you for travelling abroad to watch your countryman fight. Is this common with Finnish boxers? Hope you enjoy it

Goodhill · 06-02-2011, 01:18 PM

Thanks - will do.

To fill you in with Ville. He tooks some time off from training after he won De Prophetis last August. Time too long - he didn´t train enough for the Rasilla fight and was out of fuel after 6th round.
I wen´t for coffee the morning after with Ville and you could really tell that he had been in a war. IMO that was his own fault - too lazy training.

The training for this Oi fight has gone a lot better, I´m glad to say. It´s 50-50 fight IMO and I´m excited as hell.

If you´re interested with these not so known fighters as well, check out Edis Tatli in lightweights. I been watching Edis and Ville spar and dare to say (of course I´m 100% bias) that Edis will raise at least at the top of European level.

Goodhill · 06-02-2011, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JFT96

Good on you for travelling abroad to watch your countryman fight. Is this common with Finnish boxers? Hope you enjoy it

Thanks.

For me it is. I work a bit with their promotional team (I´m a lawyer).
But I go to watch Helenius´s fights as well and there are at least couple of dosens of hard core Finnish boxing fans (Robbe´s next fight will (99% sure) be against Liakhovich 16.7 in Germany BTW - I´ll try to drive there with my motorcycle, best way to travel in summertime)

ile12345 · 06-02-2011, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Goodhill

Thanks.

For me it is. I work a bit with their promotional team (I´m a lawyer).
But I go to watch Helenius´s fights as well and there are at least couple of dosens of hard core Finnish boxing fans (Robbe´s next fight will (99% sure) be against Liakhovich 16.7 in Germany BTW - I´ll try to drive there with my motorcycle, best way to travel in summertime)

hmm.. karl helenius just posted that 16.7 isn't a likely match day. maybe this (lyackhovich) is just a plan-b and something interesting is going to happen.. (or maybe not) otherwise just can't understand how its so hard to make it happen

war ville

Goodhill · 06-02-2011, 01:52 PM

Maybe they´re trying to feed Valuev (how is his shoulder?) to Robbe - wasn´t that on the works one time all ready? Before Haye fight?

VHB · 06-03-2011, 12:55 AM

Lazy training has always been Piispanen´s worst opponent, it would seem.

His skillset is great, skill-wise Rasilla was no match for Piispanen.

Ville has the ability to do great things, he needs some of that Idi Amin´s mentality in training camps to fulfill his potential.

GO VILLE! DESTROY THAT TIME MACHINE! WAR!

Leifhackman · 06-03-2011, 03:11 AM

This card (or at least part of some fight) will be aired on Sport Italia channel. The channel is aired via DVB-T in Italy and via couple of satellites (DVB-S2, Free to Air and DVB-S VideoGuard crypted) with european foot prints.

If you look for streams, there are tons of Sport Italia 24 streams, but that's a news flash channel by Sport Italia. Also, it's easy to confuse Sport Italia channels with Sky Sport Italia channels, which I understand are different channels. However, Sport Italia is included in Sky.it pay channel package.

Few years of experience has given me the picture that "guessing what's on TV" must be national sport in Italy. Sport Italia either doesn't have program guide (oh.. they have a page where it says Guida TV but there's nothing on it), not even for today's programs. Sky.it program guide says "Pugilato, Live" on Sport Italia from 20:30-21:00 (that's Italian time). So... since the promoting party has a contract with Sport Italia, one could guess this is it. According to this program information (provided we could see the channel ofcourse) we could see some generous 7 rounds of the fight provided the fight begins exactly at 20:30.

And... I don't remember seen any boxing streams from Italian channels in my life.. so we might be out of luck what comes to watching it live. A guy who has Sky.it subscribed told me he would record this fight and share it later on.

I hope Goodhill has an enjoyable trip and nice evening with boxing.

IntentionalButt · 06-03-2011, 06:16 PM

Well, I didn't get to see this.

It looks like Ville lost by way of technical decision. Reportedly he had points deducted in the 4th and 6th rounds.

GH, what was the story there? What kinds of infractions were they? Were the deductions fair and preceded by warnings?

It doesn't make too much difference, actually. Without those two points, one judge would have had it for Piispanen by a hair and the other two would have still had it for Oi but close instead of wide.

Was there a clash of heads that caused it to go to the cards?

As for Della Rosa, it seems he was able to drop the Pole late but unable to finish him off...settling for a very wide points win. Good fight or totally uncompetitive?

Leifhackman · 06-04-2011, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by IntentionalButt

Well, I didn't get to see this.

It looks like Ville lost by way of technical decision. Reportedly he had points deducted in the 4th and 6th rounds.

GH, what was the story there? What kinds of infractions were they? Were the deductions fair and preceded by warnings?

It doesn't make too much difference, actually. Without those two points, one judge would have had it for Piispanen by a hair and the other two would have still had it for Oi but close instead of wide.

Was there a clash of heads that caused it to go to the cards?

As for Della Rosa, it seems he was able to drop the Pole late but unable to finish him off...settling for a very wide points win. Good fight or totally uncompetitive?

According to a Finnish tv company news site ([Only registered and activated users can see links. ]) ATM the word is that Ville got warned and points deducted on the 4th and 6th for head butting. Oi was cutted around his eyes and the doc told the ref to stop the fight in the 7th. Pekka Mäki from P3 Boxing said untill the fight was stopped it was Ville´s fight and that should they have fought couple of more rounds he would have put Oi belly up. Mäki also stated Ville gave too easily excuses for the ref to make point deductions.

AFter the fight was stopped they went to the score cards and Oi was ahead. When they announced the winner also Ville raised his hand and the audience got really mad about it. The finnish guys had to duck for flying bottles on their way out of the ring. Ville's team feels they got robbed and they are going to file a complaint.

What wasn´t said in the article was if Oi was cutted due to the clashes of head or did it happen later. I have understood there must be some damage done during clashes of heads and if those cuts or other damages later on are the reason for stopping the fight after 4th you go to the score cards. But if you are cut by your opponent punching you and unable to continue with the fight, you loose by TKO.

It would be interesting to see what really happened.

Consu · 06-05-2011, 12:00 AM

Piispanen - Oioioioasad

What I have heard is that the desicion was a crazy robbery and referee was biased as always in Italy. First point deduction was ridicilious and referee was warning Piispanen all the time, no matter what he did. And those who have seen Piispanen's fights knows that he is not a dirty fighter. And I heard that there was no questions about who was the better boxer in the ring.. And yes, it wasn't Italiano.. Italy....

I guess it will be on youtube very soon..

05-31-2011, 09:04 PM	#1
IntentionalButt Nash Equilibrium Debunker East Side VIP Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Boston Posts: 123,310 vCash: 0	Emanuele Della Rosa vs. Daniel Urbanski & Ville Piispanen vs. Vittorio Oi, 6/3/11 This is taking place Friday in a suburb of Rome, with both the WBC 154lb Int'l title and the European 140lb title on the line. Both are pretty decent match-ups. Each features a homegrown boxer (one a "champion", one challenging) against foreigners. Does anyone know the start time, or whether it will be televised in parts of Europe? Urbanski and Piispanen hail from Poland and Finland respectively, and while neither is anywhere close to being one of the top 5 most recognizable names in their country they are both good young fighters. I'd think that this was worth some airtime somewhere.
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06-01-2011, 12:13 AM	#2
Goodhill Iron Horse - born to lose ESB Addict Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Finland Posts: 1,763 vCash: 75	Re: Emanuele Della Rosa vs. Daniel Urbanski & Ville Piispanen vs. Vittorio Oi, 6/3/11 Italian television is airing this one , I'm not sure which channel but TV is there. I'm going to this one. It's 50-50 fight for Piispanen vs Oi. Ville hasn't got too many KO -victories, but I'm still hoping for a big win for the Finn.
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06-02-2011, 11:34 AM	#3
IntentionalButt Nash Equilibrium Debunker East Side VIP Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Boston Posts: 123,310 vCash: 0	Re: Emanuele Della Rosa vs. Daniel Urbanski & Ville Piispanen vs. Vittorio Oi, 6/3/11 Goodhill, do you know the approximate time(s) for the co-main events?
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Goodhill Iron Horse - born to lose ESB Addict Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Finland Posts: 1,763 vCash: 75	Re: Emanuele Della Rosa vs. Daniel Urbanski & Ville Piispanen vs. Vittorio Oi, 6/3/11 It´s (Piispanen vs Oi) app. 11 PM Finnish time (EEST or GMT +3 hours) and Della Rosa -fight after that. SPORTITALIA will broadcast it.
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06-02-2011, 12:45 PM	#5
IntentionalButt Nash Equilibrium Debunker East Side VIP Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Boston Posts: 123,310 vCash: 0	Re: Emanuele Della Rosa vs. Daniel Urbanski & Ville Piispanen vs. Vittorio Oi, 6/3/11 Darn. I probably won't be out of work in time for Piispanen vs. Oi - and that's the one I was more excited for. I'm keenly interested in Ville; he impressed me with his effort and showed promise against Rasilla even though he only managed a draw. Work in progress, but could become pretty good IMO. Oh well. Thanks GH. Enjoy the action.
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06-02-2011, 01:18 PM	#7
Goodhill Iron Horse - born to lose ESB Addict Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Finland Posts: 1,763 vCash: 75	Re: Emanuele Della Rosa vs. Daniel Urbanski & Ville Piispanen vs. Vittorio Oi, 6/3/11 Thanks - will do. To fill you in with Ville. He tooks some time off from training after he won De Prophetis last August. Time too long - he didn´t train enough for the Rasilla fight and was out of fuel after 6th round. I wen´t for coffee the morning after with Ville and you could really tell that he had been in a war. IMO that was his own fault - too lazy training. The training for this Oi fight has gone a lot better, I´m glad to say. It´s 50-50 fight IMO and I´m excited as hell. If you´re interested with these not so known fighters as well, check out Edis Tatli in lightweights. I been watching Edis and Ville spar and dare to say (of course I´m 100% bias) that Edis will raise at least at the top of European level.
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06-02-2011, 01:52 PM	#10
Goodhill Iron Horse - born to lose ESB Addict Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Finland Posts: 1,763 vCash: 75	Re: Emanuele Della Rosa vs. Daniel Urbanski & Ville Piispanen vs. Vittorio Oi, 6/3/11 Maybe they´re trying to feed Valuev (how is his shoulder?) to Robbe - wasn´t that on the works one time all ready? Before Haye fight?
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06-03-2011, 12:55 AM	#11
VHB Gatekeeper ESB Full Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 442 vCash: 1000	Re: Emanuele Della Rosa vs. Daniel Urbanski & Ville Piispanen vs. Vittorio Oi, 6/3/11 Lazy training has always been Piispanen´s worst opponent, it would seem. His skillset is great, skill-wise Rasilla was no match for Piispanen. Ville has the ability to do great things, he needs some of that Idi Amin´s mentality in training camps to fulfill his potential. GO VILLE! DESTROY THAT TIME MACHINE! WAR!
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06-03-2011, 03:11 AM	#12
Leifhackman Journeyman ESB Jr Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 107 vCash: 1000	Re: Emanuele Della Rosa vs. Daniel Urbanski & Ville Piispanen vs. Vittorio Oi, 6/3/11 This card (or at least part of some fight) will be aired on Sport Italia channel. The channel is aired via DVB-T in Italy and via couple of satellites (DVB-S2, Free to Air and DVB-S VideoGuard crypted) with european foot prints. If you look for streams, there are tons of Sport Italia 24 streams, but that's a news flash channel by Sport Italia. Also, it's easy to confuse Sport Italia channels with Sky Sport Italia channels, which I understand are different channels. However, Sport Italia is included in Sky.it pay channel package. Few years of experience has given me the picture that "guessing what's on TV" must be national sport in Italy. Sport Italia either doesn't have program guide (oh.. they have a page where it says Guida TV but there's nothing on it), not even for today's programs. Sky.it program guide says "Pugilato, Live" on Sport Italia from 20:30-21:00 (that's Italian time). So... since the promoting party has a contract with Sport Italia, one could guess this is it. According to this program information (provided we could see the channel ofcourse) we could see some generous 7 rounds of the fight provided the fight begins exactly at 20:30. And... I don't remember seen any boxing streams from Italian channels in my life.. so we might be out of luck what comes to watching it live. A guy who has Sky.it subscribed told me he would record this fight and share it later on. I hope Goodhill has an enjoyable trip and nice evening with boxing. Last edited by Leifhackman; 06-03-2011 at 03:13 AM. Reason: Editing
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06-03-2011, 06:16 PM	#13
IntentionalButt Nash Equilibrium Debunker East Side VIP Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Boston Posts: 123,310 vCash: 0	Re: Emanuele Della Rosa vs. Daniel Urbanski & Ville Piispanen vs. Vittorio Oi, 6/3/11 Well, I didn't get to see this. It looks like Ville lost by way of technical decision. Reportedly he had points deducted in the 4th and 6th rounds. GH, what was the story there? What kinds of infractions were they? Were the deductions fair and preceded by warnings? It doesn't make too much difference, actually. Without those two points, one judge would have had it for Piispanen by a hair and the other two would have still had it for Oi but close instead of wide. Was there a clash of heads that caused it to go to the cards? As for Della Rosa, it seems he was able to drop the Pole late but unable to finish him off...settling for a very wide points win. Good fight or totally uncompetitive?
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06-05-2011, 12:00 AM	#15
Consu Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,050 vCash: 500	Re: Emanuele Della Rosa vs. Daniel Urbanski & Ville Piispanen vs. Vittorio Oi, 6/3/11 Piispanen - Oioioioasad What I have heard is that the desicion was a crazy robbery and referee was biased as always in Italy. First point deduction was ridicilious and referee was warning Piispanen all the time, no matter what he did. And those who have seen Piispanen's fights knows that he is not a dirty fighter. And I heard that there was no questions about who was the better boxer in the ring.. And yes, it wasn't Italiano.. Italy.... I guess it will be on youtube very soon..
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