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Old 06-17-2011, 08:40 PM   #16
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Yea, my coach doesn't really watch/guide me. So many members, only one coach. I'm not good but I don't think I'm nearly as bad as my shadowboxing shows. My coach says I've done well sparring with some amateurs who have had and won a couple of matches already.
Definitely find a gym where you can get some attention from a coach, even if it's just a beginner's class. It'll help you iron out the rough edges and set a good foundation for you to progress from. If there isn't a coach watching you damn near constantly you're going to build and reinforce terrible habits, and they are damn near impossible to fix. Trust me, it sucks.
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Old 06-18-2011, 04:29 AM   #17
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I recommend you stick to the basics first when shadowboxing. Don't try to prove anything to yourself, don't make it hard. Build a strong, correct, robotic foundation.

If you want to use the peek-a-boo (I do BTW), just focus on constant torso movement (automatic especially after throwing combos, cos chances are your opponent will throw back), keep your gloves covering your jaw, keep your elbows stuck to your ribcage, and jump around jump around.

And throw the jab constantly, like CONSTANTLY. With the peek-a-boo there's no other way to keep the guy off you or cut off the ring, if you don't jab all the time he'll just jump in and out all he wants and raid your ass.

When you have got all this down and are comfortable with your basic technique then you can mix stuff up. Otherwise its just monkeying around, shadowboxing is for learning and getting used to stuff, not making stuff up.

And only throw lead crosses when the guy is coming in, to counter him, never move forward with a cross, especially at your level. Just cos it works on some sorry bastards doesn't mean its correct or won't get you knocked out in the near future.
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Old 06-18-2011, 08:21 AM   #18
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I checked out some shadowboxing videos and like I mentioned I'm not the least computer savvy and found the URL's for the sites ridiculously long. Not sure how to even post stuff like that but here are the names of 3 guys that have pretty good technique. If you google them, you'll find a few videos of them either shadow boxing, in the ring in fights, hitting the heavy bag etc.

Lamar Russ
Martin Morales
Fabian Morales

Lamar Russ is a young pro fighting around middleweight. There's a good video of his KO of his opponent with a wicked left hook along with a couple shadowboxing videos with his coach.

Of the Morales duo, I think Martin show the better shadowboxing skills and is more fluid.

I hope these help a bit.
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Old 06-18-2011, 09:39 AM   #19
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[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0-eQQnDqaQ[/ame]
lamar russ

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjynQeP5ctc[/ame]

fabian morales

I couldn't find the martin morales one gumbo, the one i found he was throwing purely his jab. While my coach will occasionally tell us to just throw the jab, it wasn't as good of a display as lamar and fabians shadow boxing.

OP - Footwork, head movement, variation of punches, pivoting, hip movement and moving on the balls of your feet when you throw your lead hook and straight right etc. watch vids mate, and practise, and wait a few months, i feel you may need to change gyms though as a few have pointed out.
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Old 06-18-2011, 09:46 AM   #20
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with all the videos on youtube hows he supposed to tell whats good technique? why dont you post up some examples?
why dont you post one of yours ?
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Old 06-18-2011, 09:51 AM   #21
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lamar russ

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fabian morales

I couldn't find the martin morales one gumbo, the one i found he was throwing purely his jab. While my coach will occasionally tell us to just throw the jab, it wasn't as good of a display as lamar and fabians shadow boxing.

OP - Footwork, head movement, variation of punches, pivoting, hip movement and moving on the balls of your feet when you throw your lead hook and straight right etc. watch vids mate, and practise, and wait a few months, i feel you may need to change gyms though as a few have pointed out.
Too bad you couldn't find Martin Morales. His punching was in better combinations with a lot more footwork. They box out of the same gym/garage and look to be related.The other Morales' video is pretty much just the jab and not a real good indicator of shadowboxing, but he does seem to have decent footwork and looks to stay balanced in there.

Thanks for your help in posting the links. Like I said, I'm not savvy with these things. Give me a motorcycle engine to build or a cabinet to make and I'm good to go.
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Old 06-18-2011, 11:11 AM   #22
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Thanks for the links. I'll make sure to watch em repeatedly and scavenge for other good vids.

Also, I can see my footwork and balance is bad, but my punches? I believe I do put enough hip rotation and rotate on the balls of the feet. I dunno, it's probably just my footwork screwing me up so here's a vid of only punches that I'd appreciate if you guys watch it and comment on it.

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Old 06-18-2011, 01:25 PM   #23
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Thanks for the links. I'll make sure to watch em repeatedly and scavenge for other good vids.

Also, I can see my footwork and balance is bad, but my punches? I believe I do put enough hip rotation and rotate on the balls of the feet. I dunno, it's probably just my footwork screwing me up so here's a vid of only punches that I'd appreciate if you guys watch it and comment on it.

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you rotate your body into the jab too much, unless those are left straights, but then where's the jabs.
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Old 06-18-2011, 02:34 PM   #24
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Love how all the newbs and non combatants are firing out advice- no offence intended
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Old 06-18-2011, 03:54 PM   #25
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First off, good on you for putting up your vid, it takes balls. All I can say bro, is slow it down a bit, and concentrate on footwork. Speed can cover up poor technique, and will reinforce bad habits.

Anyways, it's only been a few months, but try to get more attention from the coach or some of the more advanced students. Work on the basics bro. You have the right attitude, keep it up.
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Old 06-18-2011, 09:32 PM   #26
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Your balance and posture first needs to be fixed. You are reaching with your punches and putting your weight forward on you front foot.

When you are starting out, try to keep it simple. Work on your jab and the right hand. Focus on footwork and maintaining your stance while doing this. Far too often beginners will want to throw 5-6 punch combos.

You can start to add hooks, uppercuts etc once you get your footwork and posture down.
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Old 06-19-2011, 02:20 AM   #27
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Two good pieces of advice
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Old 06-19-2011, 02:21 AM   #28
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When you start;

Technique

Then

Power

Then

Speed


Power based on delivering with perfect technique I mean
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Old 06-19-2011, 07:52 AM   #29
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Love how all the newbs and non combatants are firing out advice- no offence intended
how do you know who is non-combatant or noob?
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Old 06-19-2011, 09:57 AM   #30
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