Never Gymless: Opinions

[patch1983]

Fair enough

Everyone makes a living somehow. His books, dvds have a pricetag, his website has ads.

Just to point out he was going to close the forum down a couple of months ago because it was too expensive. Hence the reason he now has ads.

[MrSmall]

OK glad we cleared that one up.
I don't know how well he is doing, sorry to hear that.

Really though, where is my log or were you mistaking my old ones for current ones?

[patch1983]

I will have a look in a couple of minutes.

I might have been mistaken

[MrSmall]

No problem, and I say again I was pretty weak, but we all start somewhere!
Now I don't consider myself strong exactly but I am getting there.

[Johnboy2007]

Originally Posted by MrSmall

As a general rule, if you see someone with results you want, or is a respected individual in his field, it is better to follow their advice and give their methods a try, rather than some random weak skinny guy telling you how to get big and strong.



I wasn't moaning, I haven't called you names, I haven't done anything except respond directly because I think this is just a big misunderstanding or you don't want to listen to anyone else's thoughts on the matter, which is the point of a forum.

I never said gym, I said half decent trainer.. and there are NOT many around for a start. And I don't want to go off on this tangent because it will end up with me having to bash the guy to support my point, which was not my intention. Everyone makes a living somehow. His books, dvds have a pricetag, his website has ads. That's ALL I meant.

Yeh definitely agree with you. For example i can often pull rank on my mate as such because he will say something and i can say yeh i tried that for a while and it didnt work. Where as he can say the same thing only that he ready an article.

However i guess my point is not to prejudge or make your mind up based on someone not being the strongest or most athletic person in the world

In hypothetical world for example patch showed me a log of yours and it really was pathetic. Yeh sure it would make me think hmm thats a bit strange however it wouldn't detract from all the other posts iv read of yours which have made sense and are obviously true. How would you know its true by using more than one source!

Im probably not making as much sense as id like im really tired and apparently i cant read either

[patch1983]

im probably not making as much sense as id like im really tired and apparently i cant read either

lol

[Johnboy2007]

I do agree with Mr Small on one key point

As fun as this has been , its just been a huge misunderstand with just about everything he put blown way out of proportion and then out of context

[Matt Ldn]

Cheers again Mr. Small, its just confusing cos ive looked at vdoes of "perfect" squatting technique online and they always seem to have straight backs at the bottom of the squat.

Im glad youve all managed to settle your differences and come to amicable terms on my thread.

I know what your saying Johnny Boy i feel like i should be a dick to him just so i dont feel too much like some of the guys when a professional boxer is posting ina thread but hes just too helpful.

[MrSmall]

no worries dudes just a misunderstanding, now get training

[gatto]

sorry don't know what any of the posts say buuuut if you go to filestube.com and type in never gymless u got the ****ing book you bastards...now go work out

[norfolkinchance]

i oqwn a few of his books and have emailed him severasl times for advice. he has replied everytime within 48 hours and in some of the emails he composed lengthy responses. so great customer service imo and a good product!

[Don't Sleep]

IMO, Best bodyeright bok hands down!

[KillSomething]

Originally Posted by learner

I recently tried the Burpees/Shadowboxing routine which is on the Rosstraining site. Thirty seconds of each in rotation until you complete a 3 minute round, rest for one minute and then continue. I wondered about the value of this because, despite the fact it has genuinely increased my fitness levels, I personally found that my form and stance were shoddy compared to more considered shadowboxing sessions. Is this because my fitness levels are not up to scratch or is there a case for conditioning work to be done seperately from skill building work? Anyone incorporate this drill and how did you find it?

I can vouch for the value of this. My trainer had us doing 3-4 3 or 2 minute rounds of this, sometimes hitting a bag instead of shadowboxing. It works. The main benefit is that you learn to keep your head and your form when you're exhausted and about to go down (yes it can be that bad if you go hard enough). You can get a bit dizzy and disoriented but you learn to function through it. You will never be as gassed in the ring as you will doing that workout, provided you don't cheat. On top of that it gets you in great shape, but mentally it's a huge help.

And you NEVER do it before anything else. It's a finisher for the end of your workout. And you can't do it every day because I don't care who you are, your legs can't handle it.

[KillSomething]

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[patch1983]

Good past killsomething. Im glad im not the only one who thought A lot of what mrsmall was wrong