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Old 12-04-2007, 01:10 AM   #31
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what do you mean deserve? Surely you're not implying Mayweather has only taken on only the top fighthers?
having said that I agree with your overall analysis.
No. He hasn't...the #1 doesn't always fight the true #2 around his weight every fight or the very best competition...been like that for decades now...but his opponents have been good enough to keep him at #1...that is according to the experts.

So the bottom line is...Mayweather's career is leagues better and more meaningful than Hatton's....

The only true "bum" Floyd has fought since 2005 is Bruseles. I can't bring myself to say Gatti was a bum...shop worn, downhill, outmatched, misguided come fight time....yeah...but Mayweather sure made him look like a bum...he tends to make his opponents look worse than what they are...
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Old 12-04-2007, 01:20 AM   #32
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Has Hatton fought a 1st class fighter in their Prime? His best win are against 2 old and washed up former champions. Did Hatton ever fight a top fighter in their Prime?


I wouldn't be surprised if Hatton retires after his ensuing beat-down (therefore avoiding Witter, again (for another thorough beat-down)

..can't wait to say Cherri-O to the likes of David "wiki" UK on December 9th
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Old 12-04-2007, 01:23 AM   #33
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After 8 when Hatton clubbed his balls like Captain Caveman...
tszyu was aking for it with his own low blows
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Old 12-04-2007, 01:25 AM   #34
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tszyu was aking for it with his own low blows
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Old 12-04-2007, 01:28 AM   #35
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Tszyu was not washed up. That is just complete ****ing bullshit.
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Old 12-04-2007, 01:48 AM   #36
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I guess you could call Collazo an A- or B+ type fighter, other than that I don't think so.
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Old 12-04-2007, 03:25 AM   #37
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Has Hatton fought a 1st class fighter in their Prime? His best win are against 2 old and washed up former champions. Did Hatton ever fight a top fighter in their Prime?
Tszyu was in his prime when Hatton beat him. At that time, Tszyu was high in the P4P list, around #3 or so.
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Old 12-04-2007, 09:02 AM   #38
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Has Hatton fought a 1st class fighter in their Prime? His best win are against 2 old and washed up former champions. Did Hatton ever fight a top fighter in their Prime?
Zoo was a red hot favourite to beat Hatton and NOBODY was saying he was shot BEFORE the fight. Note that Zoo was NOT a former champion when he fought Hatton

Castillo had recently beaten Diego C and Hatton was only a marginal favourite to win. Plenty tipped Castillo.
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Old 12-04-2007, 09:19 AM   #39
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he was 36yrs old and fighting his final pro career fight
He was a fresh 35 years old who only had 32 fights. He was the favorite against Hatton , ranked by most at #3 in the P4P at the time he fought Hatton and 6 months prior to that fight, he koed a very good version of Sharmba Mitchell.

And the only reason that it was his final fight was because of Hatton. If he, he would have still fought more.

Tszyu made it clear prior to the fight with Hatton that he was at his very best and that the 35 yr old Tszyu would have beaten the crap out of the 25 yr old Tszyu.
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Old 12-04-2007, 09:21 AM   #40
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Zu quit......once a warrior and brutal KO artist considered one of the top P4P....quit......sounds like a shot fighter to me.
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Old 12-04-2007, 09:29 AM   #41
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don't forget, how many big names were there in the light-welterweight division? The only fighter apart from Tzsyu who would be classed as an A fighter in that division is Junior Witter, and it's well known that Hatton didn't want to fight Witter because he wouldn't make as much money and he wanted to fight in America.

When Hatton stepped up and fought Collazo, he was still a big name in the welterweight division, and considered as one of the best. Don't forget that he was doing well in the fight against Moseley until he damaged his hand in the 3rd or 4th round. It's easy to disregard a fighter once they've been beaten.

Mayweather has fought A fighters, but you could argue that he ducked many, and that most he fought were not in their prime (eg De La Hoya), or not the best fighters in the division. Don't get me wrong, Floyd has achieved far more, but it's easy to start down playing achievements in hindsight.
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Old 12-04-2007, 09:32 AM   #42
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don't forget, how many big names were there in the light-welterweight division? The only fighter apart from Tzsyu who would be classed as an A fighter in that division is Junior Witter, and it's well known that Hatton didn't want to fight Witter because he wouldn't make as much money and he wanted to fight in America.

When Hatton stepped up and fought Collazo, he was still a big name in the welterweight division, and considered as one of the best. Don't forget that he was doing well in the fight against Moseley until he damaged his hand in the 3rd or 4th round. It's easy to disregard a fighter once they've been beaten.

Mayweather has fought A fighters, but you could argue that he ducked many, and that most he fought were not in their prime (eg De La Hoya), or not the best fighters in the division. Don't get me wrong, Floyd has achieved far more, but it's easy to start down playing achievements in hindsight.
There is no point making a well rounded non-bias post like this with the scavengers around mate.
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Old 12-04-2007, 09:36 AM   #43
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There is no point making a well rounded non-bias post like this with the scavengers around mate.
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Old 12-04-2007, 10:27 AM   #44
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Nope.
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Old 12-04-2007, 11:17 AM   #45
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Ricky Shitton is a ****ING BUM! It is an absolute travesty, a shame and disgrace if that this joke is fighting Mayweather and getting big money to go along with it. His record is pitiful fraud, look at these people he has fought, these other bums like himself. You're telling me he should get a shot, let us have a look:


1997-09-11 140 Colin McAuley 138 8-48-3 - Look at this shit! LMFAO! These piece of shit fought a guy with 48 losses in his pro debut. This was the best homeless person they drug off the street. Shitton enjoys fighting hillbillys, homeless people, drag queens and other filth from the streets. His record is full of scum like himself. Let's look at some more.

1998-09-19 140 Pascal Montulet 140 10-19-3
Arena Oberhausen, Oberhausen, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany W KO 2 6
1998-07-18 140 Anthony Campbell 142 12-13-4
Ponds Forge Arena, Sheffield, Yorkshire, United Kingdom W PTS 6 6
1998-05-30 143 Mark Ramsey 141 13-18-4
Whitchurch Leisure Centre, Bristol, Avon, United Kingdom W PTS 6 6
1998-04-18 141 Karl Taylor 142 14-36-3
Nynex Arena, Manchester, Lancashire, United Kingdom W TKO 1 6
1998-03-27 141 Paul Salmon 4-12-0
Ice Rink, Telford, Shropshire, United Kingdom W KO 1 4
1998-01-17 141 David Thompson 142 7-20-3

WTF is this? Look at this disgrace! 19 losses, 13 losses, 18 losses, 36 losses, 12 losses, 20 ****ing losses! You kidding me here..........What a paper bum, let's inspect some more here.

1999-07-17 142 Mark Ramsey 145 15-25-5

1999-04-03 140 Brian Coleman 144 17-72-7

1998-12-19 141 Paul Denton 141 7-9-2

Look at this! Can you believe this? HAHAHAHHAA! 72 losses...say that again.....72 losses? Why doesn't the pipsqueak fight Reggie Strickland? He's a great ham & egger to go along with this stellar joke record.

There's plenty of other creampuffs that can be listed but you get the point...Now his fighting style. This bum enjoys dry humping men and he seems like a really sad case. Now, it's easy to see he learned this tactic from his father John Ruiz, but he takes it to another level. Ruiz should just have told his son Shitton that if he really wants to butt bang men more often he should go to London's red light district where he can have his way since he is into that sort of thing. Shitton knows he's a gay ***got, Mayweather knows he's one so that's why he made the comment about making him his bitch in prison, since Shitton enjoys that sort of thing. Alot of you fools jump up and down about the Zoo win. You do realize he was already beaten and plastered in his prime by Cool Vince long way back? You do know he had massive injuries and surgeries and had fought only 1 time in 2003 in January vs. Leija where he was looking like trash. Then fought only 1 time in 2004 in NOVEMBER against Mitchell before putting his past his prime body against Shitton. Then you jump up and down about Castillo? You do know that he was literally beaten to death by the R.I.P. warrior Corrales and was literally ruined already when he lost to Shitton, need only look at his pathetic performance against Ngoujo to see he had nothing. Shitton is a disgrace in that ring, his fighting style is pitiful and his joke fans singing ShittonLand is another joke. They ruin a perfectly good holiday song with horrible lyrics about a padded bum fighter with a joke record. I look forward to Mayweather cutting the bum's face to pieces and literally making him bleed very severely that he will need a transfusion, hopefully fall into coma and then we can get rid of him and have the ultimate battle that this nation really wants: Mayweather-Cotto...the war to end all wars in the best division in boxing. We don't need this joke to hang around looking for a pay day with that record, he had an opportunity to stay with the big boys before and ran away like a chicken ***got until he saw an opportunity thanks to that retard Kellerman, another ****ing loser and a pain in the ass that HBO should get rid because he is a bitch. I await the great comments to follow.
GOD DAMN you Hate Hatton!




Always a great choice to post some of his opponent's records....I like to post how he always had Parris and Vann as his ref too sometimes...

There will be no counter replies to your post because you ****ing KILLED it.

That's how it works here...you kill it, and the thread starts getting buried.
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