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Old 06-28-2011, 04:11 PM   #16
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Old 06-28-2011, 04:27 PM   #17
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I know zero on the issue, so can anyone explain to me how a 32 year old proessional fighter suffers from low testosterone?

I dont buy it
Well its not impossible for it genuine but let's put it this way...if you spend your twenties rotating steroid cycles you're probably going to struggle to produce the stuff naturally by your thirties. And a common tactic is to go to your doctors right after coming off a cycle - your body has completely shut down producing the stuff naturally and so it'll look like you have naturally low testosterone.
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I could understand this if Nate condition was coming out of the blue.

But it's clearly not the case.

I don't know personnaly NM, but I think I can trust him on this issue. I think it's kinda ridiculous that DW fired a guy that he already knew could test positive for something.

Like I said if it was new for him I could understand the cut, but he was warned month in advance...perfect exmeple of why DW is a ****in cunt !
How could White have been warned a month in advance when they only knew they were in trouble a week before?

And I struggle to see how you can automatically trust Nate when he's previously failed a steroid test?
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Old 06-28-2011, 04:35 PM   #19
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I could understand this if Nate condition was coming out of the blue.

But it's clearly not the case.

I don't know personnaly NM, but I think I can trust him on this issue. I think it's kinda ridiculous that DW fired a guy that he already knew could test positive for something.

Like I said if it was new for him I could understand the cut, but he was warned month in advance...perfect exmeple of why DW is a ****in cunt !
Come on man. The only thing fighters have to do is fight, that's it, that's their job, their career, the only thing the UFC ask them to do is train, make weight, and be ready to fight. It's really not much to ask when the alternative would be getting up every day and busting their ass 40, 50hrs a week for much less money, like 90% of the population. Dana White and the UFC trust this guy to be ready, spend time and money publicizing the event, and if he's not ready to be fight then he has failed in the only thing he has to do, and so it must be cheery-****ing-bye-bye. Unless it's a medical illness like Lesnar or a serious injury, these guys have no excuse. They should know well in advance if any reason is going to keep them from doing their job, and not **** up events at the 11th hour that fans have paid good money to attend. **** Nate, hope he treats Bellator with a bit more respect for his $400 win purses.
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Come on man. The only thing fighters have to do is fight, that's it, that's their job, their career, the only thing the UFC ask them to do is train, make weight, and be ready to fight. It's really not much to ask when the alternative would be getting up every day and busting their ass 40, 50hrs a week for much less money, like 90% of the population. Dana White and the UFC trust this guy to be ready, spend time and money publicizing the event, and if he's not ready to be fight then he has failed in the only thing he has to do, and so it must be cheery-****ing-bye-bye. Unless it's a medical illness like Lesnar or a serious injury, these guys have no excuse. They should know well in advance if any reason is going to keep them from doing their job, and not **** up events at the 11th hour that fans have paid good money to attend. **** Nate, hope he treats Bellator with a bit more respect for his $400 win purses.
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Come on man. The only thing fighters have to do is fight, that's it, that's their job, their career, the only thing the UFC ask them to do is train, make weight, and be ready to fight. It's really not much to ask when the alternative would be getting up every day and busting their ass 40, 50hrs a week for much less money, like 90% of the population. Dana White and the UFC trust this guy to be ready, spend time and money publicizing the event, and if he's not ready to be fight then he has failed in the only thing he has to do, and so it must be cheery-****ing-bye-bye. Unless it's a medical illness like Lesnar or a serious injury, these guys have no excuse. They should know well in advance if any reason is going to keep them from doing their job, and not **** up events at the 11th hour that fans have paid good money to attend. **** Nate, hope he treats Bellator with a bit more respect for his $400 win purses.
I think there are some common sense situations when this is a bit hard but i agree in concept 100%. Some people might save up for months just to see a particular fighter and aint got the money to go very often like some of these fighters do.
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Old 06-28-2011, 06:56 PM   #23
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I feel like this. If Marijuana is illegal in MMA, even if you have a prescription, then so should medically administered hormones, even if you have a prescription.

Otherwise, if one is going to be legal, then so should the other.
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I feel like this. If Marijuana is illegal in MMA, even if you have a prescription, then so should medically administered hormones, even if you have a prescription.

Otherwise, if one is going to be legal, then so should the other.
Erm...you're really comparing apples and oranges there mate

The issue with marijuana is that there's concerns about guys fighting under the influence and so potentially do damage to themselves or their opponent through being incapacitated. All sorts of legal drugs are on the banned substances list.

TRT is a very strictly controlled process to allow people whose body is not producing the proper amount of testosterone to live normal lives. While there are people who try to scam the system, low testosterone is a real problem and would prevent a fighter from properly training let alone fighting. The commissions are doing a pretty good job (as shown here actually) making sure fighters aren't abusing the system. Dan Henderson is receiving and not only is he regularly tested but his testosterone levels are still below average,
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Old 06-28-2011, 07:39 PM   #25
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I know zero on the issue, so can anyone explain to me how a 32 year old proessional fighter suffers from low testosterone?

I dont buy it
Didn't you know? All professional athletes, including ones that are in their 20s suffer from low testosterone levels, now that there is a new legal method of juicing called Hormone Replacement Therapy. Doesn't it sound so innocent and therapeutic? They all see the same docs who are "athlete" friendly to ensure they get what they need by fight time.
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[quote=Will Cooling;10045860]Well its not impossible for it genuine but let's put it this way...if you spend your twenties rotating steroid cycles you're probably going to struggle to produce the stuff naturally by your thirties. And a common tactic is to go to your doctors right after coming off a cycle - your body has completely shut down producing the stuff naturally and so it'll look like you have naturally low testosterone.[/quote]
Bingo - Just what I was going to add/say. Easy recipe for getting your prescription. Nate would of fooled me, he's hardly ever looked like someone suffering from low testosterone.
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How could White have been warned a month in advance when they only knew they were in trouble a week before?

And I struggle to see how you can automatically trust Nate when he's previously failed a steroid test?
I mean the guy knew he was on hormone treatment if NM went to see the UFC doc.

I just think it's a bit harsh to fire a guy you knew was on that kind of treatment, at least, that's what NM said !
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Come on man. The only thing fighters have to do is fight, that's it, that's their job, their career, the only thing the UFC ask them to do is train, make weight, and be ready to fight. It's really not much to ask when the alternative would be getting up every day and busting their ass 40, 50hrs a week for much less money, like 90% of the population. Dana White and the UFC trust this guy to be ready, spend time and money publicizing the event, and if he's not ready to be fight then he has failed in the only thing he has to do, and so it must be cheery-****ing-bye-bye. Unless it's a medical illness like Lesnar or a serious injury, these guys have no excuse. They should know well in advance if any reason is going to keep them from doing their job, and not **** up events at the 11th hour that fans have paid good money to attend. **** Nate, hope he treats Bellator with a bit more respect for his $400 win purses.
WTF ???

I think nobody here understood what I was trying to say...

If you listen in the video of NM with Ariel, at approx. 01:26 NM clearly say he went to talk to the doctor of the UFC about his "medical condition" and that he told them he needed hormone replacement therapy.

The only thing I'm saying is that DW was warned since the month of august last year about NM healt condition(according to NM own word) and since that time he fought 3 time.

If the guy is lying then **** him but if he told DW last ****in year about that then it shouldn't be a surprise for DW that stuff like that happen.
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It looks like being this. I think its fair to say they've also tended to be hard asses on guys who fail twice on steroid issues. But given how they've defended Sonnen it looks very, very harsh.
I tend to agree here, Sonnen actually fought under the effects of peds, NM got caught before and, according to him, the UFC was well aware of his treatments.

Dana has toned down the Sonnen case and even defended him saying the guy would already lose a year's salary and shouldn't be punished more severly. Why should Nate be kicked out in such brutal manner?

although i'll admit this answer seems to be the one:

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Because he doesn't have to worry about him boosting a rival company by signing for them and to send a message not to **** up a main event.
Still unfair though, they should both be kicked out imo.

p.s.: on a side note, NM and Sonnen fought in 2010, who was the most juiced up lol?
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I tend to agree here, Sonnen actually fought under the effects of peds, NM got caught before and, according to him, the UFC was well aware of his treatments.

Dana has toned down the Sonnen case and even defended him saying the guy would already lose a year's salary and shouldn't be punished more severly. Why should Nate be kicked out in such brutal manner?

although i'll admit this answer seems to be the one:



Still unfair though, they should both be kicked out imo.

p.s.: on a side note, NM and Sonnen fought in 2010, who was the most juiced up lol?
With Sonnen, the event went ahead as planned. With Nate, it didn't.
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