Dana White: "Leben/Munoz is definetely possible.."

Anarchy99 · 07-03-2011, 06:16 PM

Thoughts? I can definitely see Mark holding him down for 3 rounds but we all know he is inclined to wanna brawl at times..

Anarchy99 · 07-03-2011, 06:27 PM

I'm also a huge Silva fan but I've been on the Leben bandwagon since TUF 1. I agree though about the fight, Maia has no where NEAR the power of Leben.

Flash Jab · 07-03-2011, 06:35 PM

There's some really boring Middleweights out there. Maia, Munoz, Grove, Okami, just never in a good fight.

Gotta make Leben look strong, play him to his strengths. He should be in FOTN's, try and put him against guys to climb rankings against, he'll lose. He doesn't have the ground game or the muay thai, submissions skills etc to survive. He's a banger, he needs someone to stand up with him.

I went for Leben over Wanderlei, and I didn't feel at all guilty. I love Wanderlei, but I'm a big fan of Leben and he's much more relevant these days.

Anarchy99 · 07-03-2011, 06:54 PM

I think Leben has very underrated Brazilian Jujitsu. Sneaky submissions if not flashy ones. I think Leben is the guy you HAVE to beat to be in the title mix. Look at the middleweight picture.. Stann, Maia, Munoz, Okami, Sonnen, Belfort, Bisping, now you have Mayhem, and Silva as the champion. I have Leben ranked 9th in the UFC middleweight division.

Flash Jab · 07-03-2011, 06:56 PM

I'm not saying he's shit on the ground, but he's not anywhere good enough to survive the upper echelon when they decide to make it their type of fight.

Admittedly I would've liked to see Leben vs. Marquardt. Leben's a high level gatekeeper and a fun fighter.

Anarchy99 · 07-03-2011, 07:03 PM

Leben is to often passed off as a sloppy brawler with no skill. I think ranked 9th is pretty good especially when in January he was ranked 10th and Wandy was ranked 5th.

Flash Jab · 07-03-2011, 07:08 PM

I just think elite wise he's not going to get anywhere without relying on the standup. And if he's fighting someone who's smart with it it's gonna be even harder. But he could still beat a lot of guys with other methods, he's just not going to beat the Maia's or the Miller's and such on the ground. Anyone who elects to just stand and trade with him though are very silly.

Vitor Belfort · 07-03-2011, 07:09 PM

Nice but if i'm munoz i take this fight to the ground asap. I wouldn't want to mess with leben's power.

Anarchy99 · 07-03-2011, 07:19 PM

Munoz would still stand and trade. Its what he does.. but yea, take Leben down asap!

Amrn4s · 07-03-2011, 08:52 PM

Bad idea Mr. White. Put Leben against another standup guy. Give the people what they wanna see.

jimmie · 07-03-2011, 09:00 PM

I wanna see Stann vs Munoz with the winner getting a title shot.

Anarchy99 · 07-03-2011, 09:11 PM

I wanna see Leben vs Belfort after he beats Akiyama.

rekcutnevets · 07-03-2011, 09:18 PM

I would like to see Leben vs Belcher.

Ai-edy2007 · 07-03-2011, 10:15 PM

i hope mark munoz wins but his win would probably be very boring otherwise i see leben knocking mark out within the 1st round.

Anarchy99 · 07-04-2011, 04:18 AM

This fight is very difficult to assess because you don't know what Munoz is going to do. Brawl or wrestle....

07-03-2011, 06:16 PM	#1
Anarchy99 Babalu will KILL You! ESB Addict Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 2,109 vCash: 441	Dana White: "Leben/Munoz is definetely possible.." Thoughts? I can definitely see Mark holding him down for 3 rounds but we all know he is inclined to wanna brawl at times..
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07-03-2011, 06:27 PM	#2
Anarchy99 Babalu will KILL You! ESB Addict Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 2,109 vCash: 441	Re: Dana White: "Leben/Munoz is definetely possible.." I'm also a huge Silva fan but I've been on the Leben bandwagon since TUF 1. I agree though about the fight, Maia has no where NEAR the power of Leben.
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07-03-2011, 06:35 PM	#3
Flash Jab The Outlaw - Last Stand East Side VIP Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 10,911 vCash: 100	Re: Dana White: "Leben/Munoz is definetely possible.." There's some really boring Middleweights out there. Maia, Munoz, Grove, Okami, just never in a good fight. Gotta make Leben look strong, play him to his strengths. He should be in FOTN's, try and put him against guys to climb rankings against, he'll lose. He doesn't have the ground game or the muay thai, submissions skills etc to survive. He's a banger, he needs someone to stand up with him. I went for Leben over Wanderlei, and I didn't feel at all guilty. I love Wanderlei, but I'm a big fan of Leben and he's much more relevant these days.
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07-03-2011, 06:54 PM	#4
Anarchy99 Babalu will KILL You! ESB Addict Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 2,109 vCash: 441	Re: Dana White: "Leben/Munoz is definetely possible.." I think Leben has very underrated Brazilian Jujitsu. Sneaky submissions if not flashy ones. I think Leben is the guy you HAVE to beat to be in the title mix. Look at the middleweight picture.. Stann, Maia, Munoz, Okami, Sonnen, Belfort, Bisping, now you have Mayhem, and Silva as the champion. I have Leben ranked 9th in the UFC middleweight division.
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07-03-2011, 06:56 PM	#5
Flash Jab The Outlaw - Last Stand East Side VIP Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 10,911 vCash: 100	Re: Dana White: "Leben/Munoz is definetely possible.." I'm not saying he's shit on the ground, but he's not anywhere good enough to survive the upper echelon when they decide to make it their type of fight. Admittedly I would've liked to see Leben vs. Marquardt. Leben's a high level gatekeeper and a fun fighter.
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07-03-2011, 07:03 PM	#6
Anarchy99 Babalu will KILL You! ESB Addict Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 2,109 vCash: 441	Re: Dana White: "Leben/Munoz is definetely possible.." Leben is to often passed off as a sloppy brawler with no skill. I think ranked 9th is pretty good especially when in January he was ranked 10th and Wandy was ranked 5th.
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07-03-2011, 07:08 PM	#7
Flash Jab The Outlaw - Last Stand East Side VIP Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 10,911 vCash: 100	Re: Dana White: "Leben/Munoz is definetely possible.." I just think elite wise he's not going to get anywhere without relying on the standup. And if he's fighting someone who's smart with it it's gonna be even harder. But he could still beat a lot of guys with other methods, he's just not going to beat the Maia's or the Miller's and such on the ground. Anyone who elects to just stand and trade with him though are very silly.
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07-03-2011, 07:09 PM	#8
Vitor Belfort Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: USA Posts: 11,712 vCash: 1000	Re: Dana White: "Leben/Munoz is definetely possible.." Nice but if i'm munoz i take this fight to the ground asap. I wouldn't want to mess with leben's power.
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07-03-2011, 07:19 PM	#9
Anarchy99 Babalu will KILL You! ESB Addict Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 2,109 vCash: 441	Re: Dana White: "Leben/Munoz is definetely possible.." Munoz would still stand and trade. Its what he does.. but yea, take Leben down asap!
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07-03-2011, 08:52 PM	#10
Amrn4s Gatekeeper ESB Full Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 418 vCash: 500	Re: Dana White: "Leben/Munoz is definetely possible.." Bad idea Mr. White. Put Leben against another standup guy. Give the people what they wanna see.
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07-03-2011, 09:00 PM	#11
jimmie P4P King East Side VIP Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Baltimore, Maryland Posts: 15,233 vCash: 1000	Re: Dana White: "Leben/Munoz is definetely possible.." I wanna see Stann vs Munoz with the winner getting a title shot.
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07-03-2011, 09:11 PM	#12
Anarchy99 Babalu will KILL You! ESB Addict Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 2,109 vCash: 441	Re: Dana White: "Leben/Munoz is definetely possible.." I wanna see Leben vs Belfort after he beats Akiyama.
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07-03-2011, 09:18 PM	#13
rekcutnevets Black Sash East Side Guru Join Date: May 2007 Location: InYourMouth, NC Posts: 6,541 vCash: 1000	Re: Dana White: "Leben/Munoz is definetely possible.." I would like to see Leben vs Belcher.
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07-03-2011, 10:15 PM	#14
Ai-edy2007 STOCKTON 209 MOTHERFUCKER ESB Addict Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Australia Posts: 3,974 vCash: 500	Re: Dana White: "Leben/Munoz is definetely possible.." i hope mark munoz wins but his win would probably be very boring otherwise i see leben knocking mark out within the 1st round.
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07-04-2011, 04:18 AM	#15
Anarchy99 Babalu will KILL You! ESB Addict Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 2,109 vCash: 441	Re: Dana White: "Leben/Munoz is definetely possible.." This fight is very difficult to assess because you don't know what Munoz is going to do. Brawl or wrestle....
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