How highly do you rate Machida's win over Rich Franklin?

Popkins · 07-05-2011, 02:07 PM

It was Machida's 3rd pro fight.

At the time, Franklin was 14-0, and had beaten guys like Evan Tanner and Marvin Eastman.

Machida knocked him out early in the 2nd round with a head kick followed by punches.

Following this fight, Franklin went on a tear which saw him the UFC MW title, defend it twice, and beat guys like Nate Quarry, Evan Tanner, Jorge Rivera, Ken Shamrock and David Loiseau in the process.

His run only ended when he met Anderson Silva.

A great win?

yaca you · 07-05-2011, 02:47 PM

Yes. It was a good win, machida's best win until his victory of tito ortiz.Probably not great though( Rich Franklin has never proven himself to be great but if not for anderson silva I believe Franklin would have held on to the ufc middleweight title until Henderson unifies it in 2008 ).

Franklin despite what many will say was not a UFC hypejob he was/ is quality just not all time great status. Anderson silva is just a far superior fighter, and made Franklin look clueless when they fought, but in their second fight Franklin did a lot better than the first and against dan henderson an ATG, they had a very close fight if not for the eyepokes by henderson( I would like to see a rematch between these two).

Machida is just a far superior striker while franklin is mostly a well rounded type, but relies on his striking. When he has been outclassed striking he cant really adapt.

Stoo · 07-05-2011, 02:54 PM

Yaca's got it in one pretty much. It's arguably his second most impressive win after Evans. If you call the 1st fight with Shogun for Machida then it's less impressive as so many scored it for Rua, although to be fair he displayed alot of heart

Flash Jab · 07-05-2011, 06:43 PM

Machida beat Franklin? I never knew.

Stoo · 07-05-2011, 06:46 PM

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COzSiiBSAQ8[/ame]

Flash Jab · 07-05-2011, 11:52 PM

Yeah watched it last night. Franklin got jacked.

rusty nails · 07-06-2011, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by yaca you

Yes. It was a good win, machida's best win until his victory of tito ortiz.Probably not great though( Rich Franklin has never proven himself to be great but if not for anderson silva I believe Franklin would have held on to the ufc middleweight title until Henderson unifies it in 2008 ).

Franklin despite what many will say was not a UFC hypejob he was/ is quality just not all time great status. Anderson silva is just a far superior fighter, and made Franklin look clueless when they fought, but in their second fight Franklin did a lot better than the first and against dan henderson an ATG, they had a very close fight if not for the eyepokes by henderson( I would like to see a rematch between these two).

Machida is just a far superior striker while franklin is mostly a well rounded type, but relies on his striking. When he has been outclassed striking he cant really adapt.

i consider this fight to be the perfect example of a good fighter and respectable champion meeting a truly great fighter.

doomeddisciple · 07-06-2011, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by rusty nails

i consider this fight to be the perfect example of a good fighter and respectable champion meeting a truly great fighter.

Agreed with you and the poster you quote.

Ai-edy2007 · 07-06-2011, 12:35 AM

cool fight i always enjoy watching lyoto machida he's very exciting and his unorthodox striking is something to behold.

Popkins · 07-06-2011, 06:41 AM

I agree with everyone so far. I don't really like Rich Franklin as a fighter or a personality, but if you look at the guy's record he really has only lost to the very best. He's not an ATG, but he's a damn good fighter and this is a very good win on Lyoto's resume, especially considering it was only his 3rd pro fight. Makes you wonder why the UFC didn't snap him up earlier than they did.

scurlaruntings · 07-06-2011, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Flash Jab

Machida beat Franklin? I never knew.

He also beat BJ Penn....

achillesthegreat · 07-06-2011, 07:17 AM

Good win. Underrated win. Never really mentioned, even on the countdowns etc

07-06-2011, 08:53 AM

I personally think it is a great win. Franklin before and after the fight was looking great

jimmie · 07-06-2011, 12:35 PM

Anytime you beat Rich Franklin its a good win the mans only lost to Champs Anderson, Vitor, Hendo and Forrest.

MetalMandible · 07-06-2011, 12:39 PM

Franklin is a good fighter, not a great one, so I hesitate to say "great win" but, in relative terms, it was a great win because Machida was only 2-0 at the time. So, I'd say great win over good fighter.

07-05-2011, 02:07 PM	#1
Popkins Pacquiao East Side VIP Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: UK Posts: 13,559 vCash: 1000	How highly do you rate Machida's win over Rich Franklin? It was Machida's 3rd pro fight. At the time, Franklin was 14-0, and had beaten guys like Evan Tanner and Marvin Eastman. Machida knocked him out early in the 2nd round with a head kick followed by punches. Following this fight, Franklin went on a tear which saw him the UFC MW title, defend it twice, and beat guys like Nate Quarry, Evan Tanner, Jorge Rivera, Ken Shamrock and David Loiseau in the process. His run only ended when he met Anderson Silva. A great win?
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07-05-2011, 02:47 PM	#2
yaca you Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 2,546 vCash: 75	Re: How highly do you rate Machida's win over Rich Franklin? Yes. It was a good win, machida's best win until his victory of tito ortiz.Probably not great though( Rich Franklin has never proven himself to be great but if not for anderson silva I believe Franklin would have held on to the ufc middleweight title until Henderson unifies it in 2008 ). Franklin despite what many will say was not a UFC hypejob he was/ is quality just not all time great status. Anderson silva is just a far superior fighter, and made Franklin look clueless when they fought, but in their second fight Franklin did a lot better than the first and against dan henderson an ATG, they had a very close fight if not for the eyepokes by henderson( I would like to see a rematch between these two). Machida is just a far superior striker while franklin is mostly a well rounded type, but relies on his striking. When he has been outclassed striking he cant really adapt. Last edited by yaca you; 07-05-2011 at 03:05 PM.
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07-05-2011, 02:54 PM	#3
Stoo RIP T-Dog East Side VIP Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 14,943 vCash: 1000	Re: How highly do you rate Machida's win over Rich Franklin? Yaca's got it in one pretty much. It's arguably his second most impressive win after Evans. If you call the 1st fight with Shogun for Machida then it's less impressive as so many scored it for Rua, although to be fair he displayed alot of heart
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07-05-2011, 06:43 PM	#4
Flash Jab The Outlaw - Last Stand East Side VIP Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 10,913 vCash: 100	Re: How highly do you rate Machida's win over Rich Franklin? Machida beat Franklin? I never knew.
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Stoo RIP T-Dog East Side VIP Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 14,943 vCash: 1000	Re: How highly do you rate Machida's win over Rich Franklin? [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COzSiiBSAQ8[/ame]
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07-05-2011, 11:52 PM	#6
Flash Jab The Outlaw - Last Stand East Side VIP Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 10,913 vCash: 100	Re: How highly do you rate Machida's win over Rich Franklin? Yeah watched it last night. Franklin got jacked.
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07-06-2011, 12:35 AM	#9
Ai-edy2007 STOCKTON 209 MOTHERFUCKER ESB Addict Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Australia Posts: 3,974 vCash: 500	Re: How highly do you rate Machida's win over Rich Franklin? cool fight i always enjoy watching lyoto machida he's very exciting and his unorthodox striking is something to behold.
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07-06-2011, 06:41 AM	#10
Popkins Pacquiao East Side VIP Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: UK Posts: 13,559 vCash: 1000	Re: How highly do you rate Machida's win over Rich Franklin? I agree with everyone so far. I don't really like Rich Franklin as a fighter or a personality, but if you look at the guy's record he really has only lost to the very best. He's not an ATG, but he's a damn good fighter and this is a very good win on Lyoto's resume, especially considering it was only his 3rd pro fight. Makes you wonder why the UFC didn't snap him up earlier than they did.
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07-06-2011, 07:17 AM	#12
achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE East Side VIP Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 18,198 vCash: 1000	Re: How highly do you rate Machida's win over Rich Franklin? Good win. Underrated win. Never really mentioned, even on the countdowns etc
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07-06-2011, 08:53 AM	#13
zarman Guest Posts: n/a vCash:	Re: How highly do you rate Machida's win over Rich Franklin? I personally think it is a great win. Franklin before and after the fight was looking great
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07-06-2011, 12:35 PM	#14
jimmie P4P King East Side VIP Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Baltimore, Maryland Posts: 15,233 vCash: 1000	Re: How highly do you rate Machida's win over Rich Franklin? Anytime you beat Rich Franklin its a good win the mans only lost to Champs Anderson, Vitor, Hendo and Forrest.
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07-06-2011, 12:39 PM	#15
MetalMandible Chinchecker ESB Addict Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: GA Posts: 3,773 vCash: 500	Re: How highly do you rate Machida's win over Rich Franklin? Franklin is a good fighter, not a great one, so I hesitate to say "great win" but, in relative terms, it was a great win because Machida was only 2-0 at the time. So, I'd say great win over good fighter.
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