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Old 07-06-2011, 09:58 AM   #16
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It annoys me for the reason I've mentioned. People actually think these guys have a clue what they're talking about and constantly reference them. 'Oh the ring belts amazing, the rankings are faultless'. If they had any ***** about them whatsoever they'd have kept Haye where he was because there is literally not one single reason Adamek or Povetkin should be above him. So they do what they always do, silly reactionary moves in their rankings. Not surprised they've taken the easy way out, I give Rob's rankings more credit than these buffoons.
At the end of the day the ring rankings don't matter...money talks. The only time the ring rankings will have any bearing is when Wlad retires because he can fight anyone and still hold the belt.
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Old 07-06-2011, 09:59 AM   #17
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If Haye gets moved down because he lost to Klitschko, if they're that reactionary and bowing to public perception so much...they should have moved Adamek down to about 50 when he failed to dispatch Kevin McBride. After all there are probably 50 guys out there that could knock out that lump of lard over 12 rounds.
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Old 07-06-2011, 10:00 AM   #18
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The only time the ring rankings will have any bearing is when Wlad retires because he can fight anyone and still hold the belt.
Not if someone beats him.
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Old 07-06-2011, 10:04 AM   #19
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I don't understand how a loss to Wlad warrants him dropping down the list. If they had Haye at #4 before the Wlad fight, I'd have no issue with that. His heavyweight resume is similar to Adamek's and Povetkin's.

Povetkin should not be rewarded for ducking Wlad.
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Old 07-06-2011, 10:05 AM   #20
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Not if someone beats him.
And who do you suggest that would be outside of Vitali maybe?
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Old 07-06-2011, 10:17 AM   #21
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And who do you suggest that would be outside of Vitali maybe?
Shocks happen in sport,who knows.
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Old 07-06-2011, 10:26 AM   #22
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It annoys me for the reason I've mentioned. People actually think these guys have a clue what they're talking about and constantly reference them. 'Oh the ring belts amazing, the rankings are faultless'. If they had any ***** about them whatsoever they'd have kept Haye where he was because there is literally not one single reason Adamek or Povetkin should be above him. So they do what they always do, silly reactionary moves in their rankings. Not surprised they've taken the easy way out, I give Rob's rankings more credit than these buffoons.
all rankings are flawed in some ways but unfortuantely the ring is the best one at the moment that gives out a belt, plus their champions tend to be spot on.
but man is povetkin getting some miles out of that chambers win
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Old 07-06-2011, 10:28 AM   #23
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actually hw doesn't really need rankings as most contenders are happy to just fight less fighters till a kilt payday comes calling and never fight other contenders, might as well be just kilts then everyone else
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Old 07-06-2011, 10:30 AM   #24
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all rankings are flawed in some ways but unfortuantely the ring is the best one at the moment that gives out a belt, plus their champions tend to be spot on.
but man is povetkin getting some miles out of that chambers win
Its a meaningless bauble, worse than the ABCs in many ways because there are no mandos
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Yeah all rankings are flawed but I think Ring is the best even though obviously they are far from perfect.
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Old 07-06-2011, 10:34 AM   #26
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Its a meaningless bauble, worse than the ABCs in many ways because there are no mandos
Funny how titles and belts suddenly become "baubles" and "trinkets" to suit the occasion but then revert back again when another line of argument needed.
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Old 07-06-2011, 10:35 AM   #27
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I actually do think Rob's rankings are better. To be fair to him, very rarely will you see anything glaringly incorrect with Rob's, some are debatable at worst, but rankings are subjective anyways. The Ring seem to go out of their way at times just to be controversial.
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Old 07-06-2011, 10:35 AM   #28
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Don't care what the Ring think. Pretty much everybody hates Haye but know he is the number 3 heavyweight in the world.
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Old 07-06-2011, 10:36 AM   #29
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Funny how titles and belts suddenly become "baubles" and "trinkets" to suit the occasion but then revert back again when another line of argument needed.
Check my posts re the ring belt...no mandos means its worse than the rest in my view, I have been consistant on that point.
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Old 07-06-2011, 10:39 AM   #30
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But mando opponents are usualy **** who have done nothing to deserve their shot in the first place.
I think the Ring belt is easily better than the awful soup titles.
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