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Old 07-06-2011, 09:41 AM   #31
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Check my posts re the ring belt...no mandos means its worse than the rest in my view, I have been consistant on that point.
I meant generally you touchy old git!!!

"Bauble" and "trinket" are up there with "exposed", "shot", "farce" in the ESB cliche list.
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Funny how titles and belts suddenly become "baubles" and "trinkets" to suit the occasion but then revert back again when another line of argument needed.
haye a prime example when he had the ring belt at cruiser it was the greatest but then at hw he acted like it didn't exist.i think it was gary shaw who said fans may hate all the belts but fighters love having them
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Old 07-06-2011, 09:43 AM   #33
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If there's only one thing to be established from this thread it's that Rob's rankings > any others (including Ring magazine)
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Old 07-06-2011, 09:43 AM   #34
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But mando opponents are usualy crap who have done nothing to deserve their shot in the first place.
I think the Ring belt is easily better than the awful soup titles.
I agree, they are crap but they didn't used to be and they don't have to be in the future....the ring could set the standard but don't bother.
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Old 07-06-2011, 09:44 AM   #35
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I meant generally you touchy old git!!!

"Bauble" and "trinket" are up there with "exposed", "shot", "farce" in the ESB cliche list.
None of that matters as long as you have a good resume.
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I meant generally you touchy old git!!!

"Bauble" and "trinket" are up there with "exposed", "shot", "farce" in the ESB cliche list.
....I have to admit that using the word bauble was a tad lazy
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Jean Paul Mendy being a classic case in point
I dont like mandos
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Its a meaningless bauble, worse than the ABCs in many ways because there are no mandos
mandos are tricky good idea but bad in practice.the ring not charging for its title and not having interim,super,gold,diamond belts make it far better then the abc's
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If there's only one thing to be established from this thread it's that Rob's rankings > any others (including Ring magazine)
his aren't perfect either
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None of that matters as long as you have a good resume.
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'Robbery'?
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We've done this issue to death. To enforce mandatories they'd have to strip champions who didn't face those mandatories.

They've (rightly or wrongly) chosen to try to keep the "man who beat the man" side of boxing titles rather than the enforcing mandatories side of boxing titles. Given that they are "only" a magazine I think its probably a sensible and realistic way for them to do it with the minimum of fuss and aggro.
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his aren't perfect either
No such thing, it's subjective.
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None of that matters as long as you have a good resume.
Thats the one that drives me nuts, I think thats down to me being an old fart though.
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We've done this issue to death. To enforce mandatories they'd have to strip champions who didn't face those mandatories.

They've (rightly or wrongly) chosen to try to keep the "man who beat the man" side of boxing titles rather than the enforcing mandatories side of boxing titles. Given that they are "only" a magazine I think its probably a sensible and realistic way for them to do it with the minimum of fuss and aggro.
Yeah I like the belt and the way they do it tbh.


Magazine is shit though
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