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Old 07-07-2011, 01:46 PM   #1
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Default Duran--Norris at 154

The other thread got me thinking about this one. Norris is a guy that has not stood the test of time well. But when he was on his run, his tools were top notch and he usually brought his B game to the fights were he was heavily favored. Against the cream, he was usually at his best.

And Roberto was so spotty at higher weights. That pedestrain effort against Benetiz. And I thought he lost 9 rounds of that Laing fight and made that guy look like Ray Robinson in there. Davey Moore was a guy w/ not much of a defense and willing to trade with anyone. Norris is not going to fight that way. His openings are nowhere near that magnitude, but he does have his warts.

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Old 07-07-2011, 03:29 PM   #2
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I like the speedy Norris by UD. Duran was just too inconsistent from 154 on up, and didn't have the sharpness or stamina to wear down an opponent the way he did at LW. Terry would have almost as easy a time with this chunky version of Duran as he did Leonard, if not easier.
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Old 07-07-2011, 04:06 PM   #3
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The other thread got me thinking about this one. Norris is a guy that has not stood the test of time well. But when he was on his run, his tools were top notch and he usually brought his B game to the fights were he was heavily favored. Against the cream, he was usually at his best.

And Roberto was so spotty at higher weights. That pedestrain effort against Benetiz. And I thought he lost 9 rounds of that Laing fight and made that guy look like Ray Robinson in there. Davey Moore was a guy w/ not much of a defense and willing to trade with anyone. Norris is not going to fight that way. His openings are nowhere near that magnitude, but he does have his warts.

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Norris by UD if he stuck to his gameplan and boxing. If he brawled, Duran could catch him and stop him. He would not stop Duran.
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Old 07-07-2011, 04:11 PM   #4
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Chuck Norris Oh Duran gets Koed by a mean stare !
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Old 07-07-2011, 04:28 PM   #5
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Norris by Ud. Duran will have his moments if he can get Norris' back on the ropes but don't bet on it.
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Old 07-07-2011, 05:08 PM   #6
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I agree with the rest. Norris was the worst kind of stylistic match for Duran at 154 and above. Long reach, quick, powerful and a high workrate.
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Old 07-08-2011, 03:46 AM   #7
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It's a tribute to duran's greatness he gets pitted in fantasy matchups 20 pounds north of his prime weight

As great as duran was, norris was a supreme light middleweight and it would take a very special performance for duran to beat him. If he fought like he did vs hagler then he has a chance, but considering how old he'd be and how far removed from his prime he'd be you'd have to favour the terrible one here.
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Probably Norris.
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Norris by stoppage or UD
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Old 09-24-2011, 03:26 PM   #10
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4 some reason it reminded me that redrooster himself picked Carmen Basilio over Terry Norris , which kind of backfired against Norris' hater , Waynegrade .

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Old 09-24-2011, 06:22 PM   #11
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The other thread got me thinking about this one. Norris is a guy that has not stood the test of time well. But when he was on his run, his tools were top notch and he usually brought his B game to the fights were he was heavily favored. Against the cream, he was usually at his best.

And Roberto was so spotty at higher weights. That pedestrain effort against Benetiz. And I thought he lost 9 rounds of that Laing fight and made that guy look like Ray Robinson in there. Davey Moore was a guy w/ not much of a defense and willing to trade with anyone. Norris is not going to fight that way. His openings are nowhere near that magnitude, but he does have his warts.

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judging by the Laing fight and Benitez, Norris wins with his speed. He beats late 80s hagler too no sweat
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Old 09-24-2011, 07:05 PM   #12
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Norris,
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Old 09-25-2011, 12:41 AM   #13
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Norris would beat the dog shit out of JMW Duran.......
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Old 09-25-2011, 01:16 AM   #14
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If Duran got into the type of shape he was in for the Hagler fight he would send Norris to the land of Nod, without doubt.

Anything less and you'd have to tip the scales in Norris' favour. But with his china, who the hell knows, Duran could still jag a win.
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Old 09-25-2011, 02:39 AM   #15
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judging by the Laing fight and Benitez, Norris wins with his speed. He beats late 80s hagler too no sweat
Why do u think that Norris would have beaten Duran (speed&skills , right ?) but not Basilio ? I respect Basilio myself , but Duran had more longevity and more impressing wins than Basilio , and a wider range of weights . So do u think Duran would have been 2 small , and Basilio would have been big enough ?
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