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Old 07-10-2011, 07:35 PM   #46
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how reputable is mickeys fish and chips bar? that could have been the issue that decided the fight.
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Mistake no 14- The Zab Judah pride effect.

So after the big build up, Enzos on fire, adrenalin pumping. He starts fast, quickly establishing the jab & even lands a couple of meaty left hooks, one which staggers Haye momentarily. Much like Judah when he got his big fight against Tszyu, Judah starts fast & wins the first round.

Round two, Enzos doing well, but then ships a couple of Haye big rights, & hes struggling. Gets backed into a corner & goes down from a flurry of Haye punches. No big finishing shot though, as haye isnt a one punch KO artist.
Like Zab against Tszyu though when he got hit by a big shot instead of taking the count, Enzo jumps to his feet instantly as hes embarrassed at going down, the legs wobble, ref jumps in & the dream is over, all too quickly, with Joe Calzaghe giving him the look of the italian mafia when someone has "disgraced the famila"

I dont know if anyones to blame, but you would think that Enzo calzaghe would have told Enzo before the fight "look, both you boys can hit, if he catches you dont panic, take the count & keep sticking that jab in his face & you will get him in the second half of the fight when he tires"

Enzos pride making him jump up instantly when he should have stayed down & tried to clear his head, was mistake no14 I believe. Refs are suckers for wobbly legs, they will always stop it if a fighter jumps up too quickly & does a funny dance.
Jo Emma Larvin sat next to him - in both the vauxhall people carrier on the way to the fight - and at the arena ringside - had her hands clasped over her face in sheer shock - after seeing Maccarinelli suddenly ambushed in the corner in front of her - only to get up and stagger all over the ring.

Up until that point - I think she just assumed all of Joes and his boxing friends - always win and beat the "other guy".
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how reputable is mickeys fish and chips bar? that could have been the issue that decided the fight.

there is a picture floating around the internet somewhere of the fish bar.

The vauxhall people carrier was spotted outside the bar - and it was close to midnight.

Enzo and Enzo (Calzaghe and Maccarinelli ) - were in the front seats of the Vauxhall People Carrier scoffing their faces.
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Old 07-10-2011, 08:24 PM   #51
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Jo Emma Larvin sat next to him - in both the vauxhall people carrier on the way to the fight - and at the arena ringside - had her hands clasped over her face in sheer shock - after seeing Maccarinelli suddenly ambushed in the corner in front of her - only to get up and stagger all over the ring.

Up until that point - I think she just assumed all of Joes and his boxing friends - always win and beat the "other guy".
Excellent correction
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Who actually was Enzo sparring with in the lead up to Haye?

I do find it mad that Joe Calzaghe didn't spar in the lead up to fights anywhere near as often as you'd have thought & I remember hearing Enzo didn't spar a single round before his fight with Afolabi.
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Who actually was Enzo sparring with in the lead up to Haye?

I do find it mad that Joe Calzaghe didn't spar in the lead up to fights anywhere near as often as you'd have thought & I remember hearing Enzo didn't spar a single round before his fight with Afolabi.
Calzaghe not sparring actually suited him though it gave his hands as much rest as possible it really is remarkable he achieved so much training the way he did.

Enzo trained all his fighters the same way but it clearly didnt work for all of them he got them into ridiculous shape but that was about the rest they had to deal with themselfs in the ring
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Old 09-01-2014, 05:29 PM   #55
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Calzaghe not sparring actually suited him though it gave his hands as much rest as possible it really is remarkable he achieved so much training the way he did.

Enzo trained all his fighters the same way but it clearly didnt work for all of them he got them into ridiculous shape but that was about the rest they had to deal with themselfs in the ring
Yeah I know Joe struggled with his hands, he was actually a banger when he was younger but had to adapt later on.

But still, to simply not spar in the lead up to fights, especially at that level I find it mad.

Before Sugar Ray Leonard came back against Hagler for example, I remember him saying that he fought behind closed doors for 12 months just to get used to being hit again.
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Micky's is a decent chip shop. In London it can be hard to find good ones. They are mostly the jack-of-all-trades places that sell kebabs, quarter pounders etc as well as fish and chips. I suppose Micky's is that kind of place too, but the fish and chips are of a high quality.
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Old 09-02-2014, 01:40 PM   #57
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Micky makes the London top 10 - there can't be any questions about his quality.

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Old 09-03-2014, 03:15 PM   #59
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