Charkey Ramon. would have beaten BOTH mundines!

sallywinder · 06-06-2010, 11:22 PM

my uncle used to go to the fights regularly, mostly round newcastle. i remember a few names he mentioned, thommy tear (not sure of the spelling) who he said was the toughest cunt he ever saw , and charkey ramon. charkey was destined for great things. he was to be one of our greatest. he suffered an 'injury' that prevented him from boxing ever again...

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flamengo · 06-06-2010, 11:28 PM

Surfing injury.. He ran into some Sharks.

sallywinder · 06-06-2010, 11:31 PM

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Surfing injury.. He ran into some Sharks.

ok...so it was near the coast......why was he in the water that day?

flamengo · 06-06-2010, 11:44 PM

Not actually sure in truth Sally. Although he did leave the game abruptly. He was on the verge of a World title shot after the win over Jaques Kichichan in the early 70's.

There are some reports that he was granted a Jnr Middle title shot, but decided to move down to the Welter limit and chase world domination before that too derailed as the opportunities seemed realistic. Hence he moved to the Jnr Lightweight limit and posed as a superstar in the making until it came time to prove that also... he renegged all calls to prove himself and again shifted down to the Lightweight, then Jnr Featherweight and so on and so forth until he completely vanished off the face of the earth... Some so he was working for Kaiser Sultzer also...

sallywinder · 06-06-2010, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by flamengo

Not actually sure in truth Sally. Although he did leave the game abruptly. He was on the verge of a World title shot after the win over Jaques Kichichan in the early 70's.

There are some reports that he was granted a Jnr Middle title shot, but decided to move down to the Welter limit and chase world domination before that too derailed as the opportunities seemed realistic. Hence he moved to the Jnr Lightweight limit and posed as a superstar in the making until it came time to prove that also... he renegged all calls to prove himself and again shifted down to the Lightweight, then Jnr Featherweight and so on and so forth until he completely vanished off the face of the earth... Some so he was working for Kaiser Sultzer also...

i said RAMON, NOT MUNDINE!!!! shoulder injuries wasnt it? no bites either...?

sallywinder · 06-06-2010, 11:56 PM

in any era, ramon was the better fighter than either mundine.

flamengo · 06-07-2010, 12:03 AM

A like case was still going last year Sally. Charkey could do well out of it.

sallywinder · 06-07-2010, 12:08 AM

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A like case was still going last year Sally. Charkey could do well out of it.

i hope he does well. hes a great bloke by all reports. and always fair dinkum.

my uncle was dissapointed that ramons career ended. he was a real fight fan, and went to the newcastle fight religiously. they must have had regular, and good fights at newcastle in those days. i know lew and my other uncle, harry went nearly every week to the fights.

charkey must have fought at newcastle?

sallywinder · 06-07-2010, 12:11 AM

YES HE DID!!!!! I JUST looked up boxrec....!!![Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

also, my grandparents had a shop at stockton near newcastle, and the sands 'ritchies' used to go to the shops there. so my mum and her brothers knew dave etc. mum also knew ben lexon...

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sallywinder · 07-18-2011, 09:43 PM

this thread has been re titled to what it should has been about.

charkey was a class above both mundines. its a pity we will never see them fight.

we know tony would have eventually agreed to fight charkey. but we know anthony would have RUN.

COULDHAVEBEEN · 07-18-2011, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by flamengo

Surfing injury.. He ran into some Sharks.

Missed this the first time around.

old man · 07-18-2011, 10:14 PM

Sally the boxer you refer to as Thommy Tears would have been Terry Tears

sallywinder · 07-18-2011, 10:28 PM

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Sally the boxer you refer to as Thommy Tears would have been Terry Tears

cheers mate. but i remember it was 'tear' as in cry. so i did a boxrec search and recon i found the fella...Tommy Tier.

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atigerofold · 07-19-2011, 04:46 AM

How old were you back in that time Sallywinder...I guess that you were not even born.

Mundine senior was far, far too strong and articulated (with big punches and skill)...he would have demolished Charkey....

Charkey and Anthony at light middle would have been a fabulous fight to watch......I would have voted, Anthony, a better boxer.........Charkey Ramon had episodes where he dropped his hands whilst attacking; Anthony would have picked that up, out boxing Ramon.

I would have loved to have seen Rocky Mattioli fight Ramon; it would have lasted about 5 rounds, Mattioli too fast, too strong, too skilled.

I dont dislike Ramon, just think that he was a bit over rated at the time; and a bit over rated by you now.

fistsof steel · 07-19-2011, 07:08 AM

He was all Class only defeated once in his great career.!!!!

06-06-2010, 11:22 PM	#1
sallywinder Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 4,877 vCash: 1000	Charkey Ramon. would have beaten BOTH mundines! my uncle used to go to the fights regularly, mostly round newcastle. i remember a few names he mentioned, thommy tear (not sure of the spelling) who he said was the toughest cunt he ever saw , and charkey ramon. charkey was destined for great things. he was to be one of our greatest. he suffered an 'injury' that prevented him from boxing ever again... his record...[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] Last edited by sallywinder; 07-18-2011 at 09:37 PM.
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flamengo Coool as a Cucumber. East Side Guru Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Have removed the 20a87 troll virus 'coz it sux cocks. Posts: 5,845 vCash: 1000	Re: Charkey Ramon. what REALLY ruined his career? Not actually sure in truth Sally. Although he did leave the game abruptly. He was on the verge of a World title shot after the win over Jaques Kichichan in the early 70's. There are some reports that he was granted a Jnr Middle title shot, but decided to move down to the Welter limit and chase world domination before that too derailed as the opportunities seemed realistic. Hence he moved to the Jnr Lightweight limit and posed as a superstar in the making until it came time to prove that also... he renegged all calls to prove himself and again shifted down to the Lightweight, then Jnr Featherweight and so on and so forth until he completely vanished off the face of the earth... Some so he was working for Kaiser Sultzer also...
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sallywinder Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 4,877 vCash: 1000	Re: Charkey Ramon. what REALLY ruined his career? in any era, ramon was the better fighter than either mundine. Last edited by sallywinder; 07-18-2011 at 09:38 PM.
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flamengo Coool as a Cucumber. East Side Guru Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Have removed the 20a87 troll virus 'coz it sux cocks. Posts: 5,845 vCash: 1000	Re: Charkey Ramon. what REALLY ruined his career? A like case was still going last year Sally. Charkey could do well out of it.
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sallywinder Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 4,877 vCash: 1000	Re: Charkey Ramon. what REALLY ruined his career? YES HE DID!!!!! I JUST looked up boxrec....!!![Only registered and activated users can see links. ] also, my grandparents had a shop at stockton near newcastle, and the sands 'ritchies' used to go to the shops there. so my mum and her brothers knew dave etc. mum also knew ben lexon... .
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sallywinder Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 4,877 vCash: 1000	Re: Charkey Ramon. would have beaten BOTH mundines! this thread has been re titled to what it should has been about. charkey was a class above both mundines. its a pity we will never see them fight. we know tony would have eventually agreed to fight charkey. but we know anthony would have RUN.
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atigerofold Journeyman ESB Jr Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Melbourne Posts: 290 vCash: 1000	Re: Charkey Ramon. would have beaten BOTH mundines! How old were you back in that time Sallywinder...I guess that you were not even born. Mundine senior was far, far too strong and articulated (with big punches and skill)...he would have demolished Charkey.... Charkey and Anthony at light middle would have been a fabulous fight to watch......I would have voted, Anthony, a better boxer.........Charkey Ramon had episodes where he dropped his hands whilst attacking; Anthony would have picked that up, out boxing Ramon. I would have loved to have seen Rocky Mattioli fight Ramon; it would have lasted about 5 rounds, Mattioli too fast, too strong, too skilled. I dont dislike Ramon, just think that he was a bit over rated at the time; and a bit over rated by you now.
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fistsof steel Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 1,170 vCash: 500	Re: Charkey Ramon. would have beaten BOTH mundines! He was all Class only defeated once in his great career.!!!!
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