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Old 12-06-2007, 01:23 PM   #16
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Battalino-Chocolate.
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Saddler v Pep, Frazier v Ali,
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Jeffries did it twice (just) to Gentleman Jim.
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Old 12-06-2007, 02:00 PM   #19
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Battling Nelson vs. Joe Gans
Harry Greb vs. Gene Tunney
Harry Greb vs. Tommy Loughran
Harry Greb vs. Maxie Rosenbloom
Mickey Walker vs. Jack Britton
Ted Kid Lewis vs. Jack Britton
Tony Canzoneri vs. Kid Chocolate
Jackie Kid Berg vs. Kid Chocolate
Battling Battalino vs. Kid Chocolate
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Henry Armstrong vs. Willie Joyce
Sandy Saddler vs. Wille Pep
Sandy Saddler vs. Flash Elorde
Jake Lamotta vs. Sugar Ray Robinson
Sammy Angott vs. Willie Pep
Carmen Basilio vs. Sugar Ray Robinson
Joe Frazier vs. Muhammad Ali
Vicente Saldivar vs. Ismael Laguna
Roberto Duran vs. Ken Buchanan
Roberto Duran vs. Sugar Ray Leonard

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Old 12-06-2007, 02:06 PM   #20
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Battling Nelson vs. Joe Gans
Harry Greb vs. Gene Tunney
Harry Greb vs. Tommy Loughran
Harry Greb vs. Maxie Rosenbloom
Mickey Walker vs. Jack Britton
Ted Kid Lewis vs. Jack Britton
Tony Canzoneri vs. Kid Chocolate
Jackie Kid Berg vs. Kid Chocolate
Battling Battalino vs. Kid Chocolate
Henry Armstrong vs. Barney Ross
Sandy Saddler vs. Wille Pep
Sandy Saddler vs. Flash Elorde
Jake Lamotta vs. Sugar Ray Robinson
Sammy Agott vs. Willie Pep
Carmen Basilio vs. Sugar Ray Robinson
Joe Frazier vs. Muhammad Ali
Vicente Saldivar vs. Ismael Laguna
Roberto Duran vs. Ken Buchanan
Roberto Duran vs. Sugar Ray Leonard

Please don't bother to post unless you're going to make some effort.

Duran v Leonard? Bull v Matador? Quite happy with that?
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Old 12-06-2007, 02:11 PM   #21
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Marciano vs. Charles (I and II)
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Duran v Leonard? Bull v Matador? Quite happy with that?
Duran v Leonard I was brawler v brawler, even though we think of Duran as an aggressive fighter and Leonard as a slick intelligent boxer.
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Old 12-06-2007, 02:52 PM   #23
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Duran v Leonard? Bull v Matador? Quite happy with that?
I'd call this fight a case of the Matador getting caught between the Bulls' horns.
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Old 12-06-2007, 04:36 PM   #24
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I dont think Duran-Leonard is a good example , Leonard was not a matador , he has been once or twice , but that was not his game throughout his career. And Duran wasnt a bull either, so much more than that.

You could say Leonard-Hearns 1 (it was in the later rounds)

Chavez-Taylor

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I'd call this fight a case of the Matador getting caught between the Bulls' horns.
Sir, I think you may be right.
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Old 12-06-2007, 06:19 PM   #26
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Toney-Nunn.

If Hatton beats Maryweather, that one may be among the best examples.
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If Hatton beats Maryweather, that one may be among the best examples.
It will be.


EDIT: Would be...
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Old 12-06-2007, 07:41 PM   #28
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Chavez v camacho?
Good call, that was a bull like performance for JC.

Another 1 was actually an obvious 1... Lamotta (the bronx bull) beating Robinson, the original matador.
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It will be.


EDIT: Would be...
A prediction? If so, I'll remember it --to heap praise (or derision) upon your head ...
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