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Old 07-15-2011, 10:07 AM   #1
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Default My own heavyweight of the year list. Volume 1 1960 - 1989

As it's read. For each year I'll put down whom I considered to be the outstanding heavyweight of the particular years stated


1960 Floyd Patterson
1961 Sonny Liston
1962 Sonny Liston
1963 Cassius Clay (Muhammad Ali)
1964 Muhammad Ali
1965 Muhammad Ali
1966 Muhammad Ali
1967 Muhammad Ali
1968 Joe Frazier
1969 Joe Frazier
1970 Muhammad Ali *
1971 Joe Frazier
1972 Muhammad Ali
1973 George Foreman
1974 Muhammad Ali
1975 Muhammad Ali
1976 George Foreman
1977 Ken Norton
1978 Larry Holmes
1979 Larry Holmes
1980 Larry Holmes
1981 Larry Holmes
1982 Larry Holmes
1983 Larry Holmes
1984 Pinklon Thomas
1985 Michael Spinks
1986 Mike Tyson
1987 Mike Tyson
1988 Mike Tyson
1989 Mike Tyson


* Some may wonder why I did n't have Frazier for this year,as he unified the title. Ali had the better resume,even if he'd only been back for the last couple of months of the year.
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Old 07-15-2011, 10:15 AM   #2
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Some may wonder why I did n't have Frazier for this year,as he unified the title. Ali had the better resume,even if he'd only been back for the last couple of months of the year.

Liston is a far more worthy winner of 1960 than Ali is of 1970.
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Liston is a far more worthy winner of 1960 than Ali is of 1970.
Liston really made an impression that year,but I had it edged for Floyd because of the emphatic way that he beat his 'Ingo' demons from the year before.

When Ali came back in 1970,he beat Jerry Quarry,whom apart from Ali and Frazier themselves,was the top man around. Plus Oscar Bonavena.
Frazier beat Jimmy Ellis,who was en par with Quarry,then he knocked out Bob Foster,who was no way as dangerous as Bonavena.
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Ellis beat Quarry and Bonavena, that's why he was in a position to have the fight with Frazier. Joe's performances vs Jimmy and Bob Foster were clearly more impressive than Ali's over Quarry and Bonavena. If the roles were reversed there's no way Joe would win your 1970 list.
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Ellis beat Quarry and Bonavena, that's why he was in a position to have the fight with Frazier. Joe's performances vs Jimmy and Bob Foster were clearly more impressive than Ali's over Quarry and Bonavena. If the roles were reversed there's no way Joe would win your 1970 list.
I would have recognised Frazier's achievements had the roles indeed been reversed. After Frazier beat him,Ellis was no longer the same. Indeed he went to the canvas twice against our own Joe 'Reggie Perrin two black eyes' Bugner in '74. Quarry was still dangerous throughout the first three or four years of the seventies.
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Mint idea m8, your list i agree with. When you doing volume 2, 1990-2011??
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Mint idea m8, your list i agree with. When you doing volume 2, 1990-2011??
Later today or tomorrow Hook.
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I bet Ali wins at least one of them.
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I bet Ali wins at least one of them.
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I bet Ali wins at least one of them.
Funnily enough,Ring Magazine voted Ali their overall fighter of the year in '78. I disagreed. Holmes accomplished more in the heavies that year,imo. He beat a still dangerous Ken Norton,while Muhammad only levelled the score against a man whom he should never lost to in the first place.
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As it's read. For each year I'll put down whom I considered to be the outstanding heavyweight of the particular years stated


1960 Floyd Patterson
1961 Sonny Liston
1962 Sonny Liston
1963 Cassius Clay (Muhammad Ali)
1964 Muhammad Ali
1965 Muhammad Ali
1966 Muhammad Ali
1967 Muhammad Ali
1968 Joe Frazier
1969 Joe Frazier
1970 Muhammad Ali *
1971 Joe Frazier
1972 Muhammad Ali
1973 George Foreman
1974 Muhammad Ali
1975 Muhammad Ali
1976 George Foreman
1977 Ken Norton
1978 Larry Holmes
1979 Larry Holmes
1980 Larry Holmes
1981 Larry Holmes
1982 Larry Holmes
1983 Larry Holmes
1984 Pinklon Thomas
1985 Michael Spinks
1986 Mike Tyson
1987 Mike Tyson
1988 Mike Tyson
1989 Mike Tyson


* Some may wonder why I did n't have Frazier for this year,as he unified the title. Ali had the better resume,even if he'd only been back for the last couple of months of the year.

Pretty good. Why Spinks in 1985, if you did not have Holmes in 1984?
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It has to be Frazier for 1970.
He unified the title by KOing Ellis. And both him and Ellis had already beat the two guys Ali fought at the end of the year !

This has been said already in this thread, but it needs to be said.
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Pretty good. Why Spinks in 1985, if you did not have Holmes in 1984?
Aside from beating an old Mike Weaver,Pinklon Thomas,my previous year's winner did n't do anything else. Spinks seemed the logical choice for '85.
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It has to be Frazier for 1970.
He unified the title by KOing Ellis. And both him and Ellis had already beat the two guys Ali fought at the end of the year !

This has been said already in this thread, but it needs to be said.
Good point,Unforgiven,but I can only repeat what I said earlier.
There's an extremely good case for Muhammad and Joe tying for the 1970 honours. Taking it on a year by year basis,Ali finishes ahead of Joe for that year,imo.
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Good point,Unforgiven,but I can only repeat what I said earlier.
There's an extremely good case for Muhammad and Joe tying for the 1970 honours. Taking it on a year by year basis,Ali finishes ahead of Joe for that year,imo.
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