Is wladimir the greatest boxer of all time

FJAY360 · 02-18-2011, 06:18 PM

No he isn't and the more people think this and post on forums that he is the more people bring up the negatives about Wlad's career and talk about his 'glass chin', I would put Wlad inside the top 20 and if he can beat Haye and guys like Solis, Adamek he could creep inside the top 15 but sadly fighting guys like Chisora is not getting him any closer to being an ATG, in fact I think he's almost tempting fate with Chisora, if he wins so what if he loses it will be the 3rd time he's lost to a complete novice and that will no doubt hurt his legacy.
I'm not hating on him seriously I think he's a good fighter but comparing him to Tyson and Ali is plain retarded.

RUSKULL · 02-18-2011, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by FJAY360

No he isn't and the more people think this and post on forums that he is the more people bring up the negatives about Wlad's career and talk about his 'glass chin', I would put Wlad inside the top 20 and if he can beat Haye and guys like Solis, Adamek he could creep inside the top 15 but sadly fighting guys like Chisora is not getting him any closer to being an ATG, in fact I think he's almost tempting fate with Chisora, if he wins so what if he loses it will be the 3rd time he's lost to a complete novice and that will no doubt hurt his legacy.
I'm not hating on him seriously I think he's a good fighter but comparing him to Tyson and Ali is plain retarded.

Well I'm glad we could all help you get that off your chest..............

Seriously though, I'm a big Wladimir fan but who has claimed he's the best or greatest boxer of all time? Please name names................

He does have an All Time Great jab and his power is up there too. He's already in the top 15 heavyweights of all time, maybe even the lower top 10. If he beats a few more Haye, Solis, Povetkin types he can still creep higher up the rankings.

sosolid4u09 · 02-18-2011, 06:25 PM

FFS.

Klit fans are amongst the most annoying on ESB.
But i dont recall any of them saying hes the GOAT.

Threetime no1 · 02-18-2011, 06:26 PM

No

Overhill · 02-18-2011, 06:27 PM

Comparing anyone to Ali or Tyson is retarded. Third biggest star in heavyweights is ridiculously way behind of them.. in popular culture.

RUSKULL · 02-18-2011, 06:30 PM

1. Louis
2. Ali
3. Lewis
4. Marciano
5. Holmes
6. Foreman
7. Holyfield
8. Tyson
9. W. Klitschko
10. Dempsey

That's roughly where I'd place Wladimir but if you ask me tomorrow, it might be different

FJAY360 · 02-18-2011, 06:30 PM

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H2H Vit is number 1 in history.

This is just a quick example but retarded youtubers claiming the Klits are the greatest ever, I mean really!??

RUSKULL · 02-18-2011, 06:31 PM

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Comparing anyone to Ali or Tyson is retarded. Third biggest star in heavyweights is ridiculously way behind of them.. in popular culture.

So Joe Louis is ridiculously far behind Mike Tyson? That's laughable.

RUSKULL · 02-18-2011, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by FJAY360

This is just a quick example but retarded youtubers claiming the Klits are the greatest ever, I mean really!??

I'm sure I can find exceptions to the rule, but no one that posts here regularly says that.

iceman71 · 02-18-2011, 06:34 PM

most people think vitali is greater than wlad for some reason......
but wlad is the best of the 2000's

RUSKULL · 02-18-2011, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Overhill

Comparing anyone to Ali or Tyson is retarded. Third biggest star in heavyweights is ridiculously way behind of them.. in popular culture.

I'd def. put Foreman above Tyson as well, along with Holyfield and a few others. Most boxing historians place Ali at number one, but many place Joe Louis there.

RUSKULL · 02-18-2011, 06:37 PM

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most people think vitali is greater than wlad for some reason......
but wlad is the best of the 2000's

Agreed. He's defended his belt numerous times and even started unification. That's something we should all appreciate for the good of the sport.

I think Vitali is rated higher head to head while Wladimir is rated higher based on legacy, longevity, etc.

rapscalion · 02-18-2011, 06:38 PM

Wlad is hands down the greatest fighter ever of any weight class.

gobblock · 02-18-2011, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by FJAY360

This is just a quick example but retarded youtubers claiming the Klits are the greatest ever, I mean really!??

Korean people in North Korea say it's the greatest country ever, I mean really?!?! That's why I'm posting about it here.

Masamune · 02-18-2011, 06:39 PM

Ive read that both Vitali and Wlad would toy with Ali and Holmes at any era of their careers - this type of retarded nut hugging does bring out the hate in a lot of boxing fans .

Seriously , on historical context alone and because of the epic backdrop of his two fights with Louis I would rate Max Schmeling higher than Wlad Klitschko.

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FJAY360 The Art Of Event Winning East Side Guru Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: 3rd Rock from the sun Posts: 5,367 vCash: 187	Is wladimir the greatest boxer of all time No he isn't and the more people think this and post on forums that he is the more people bring up the negatives about Wlad's career and talk about his 'glass chin', I would put Wlad inside the top 20 and if he can beat Haye and guys like Solis, Adamek he could creep inside the top 15 but sadly fighting guys like Chisora is not getting him any closer to being an ATG, in fact I think he's almost tempting fate with Chisora, if he wins so what if he loses it will be the 3rd time he's lost to a complete novice and that will no doubt hurt his legacy. I'm not hating on him seriously I think he's a good fighter but comparing him to Tyson and Ali is plain retarded.
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sosolid4u09 4 8 15 16 23 42 East Side VIP Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: FUCK Bob arum Posts: 11,945 vCash: 75	Re: Is wladimir the greatest boxer of all time FFS. Klit fans are amongst the most annoying on ESB. But i dont recall any of them saying hes the GOAT.
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Overhill Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Flying Handkerchief Cry Posts: 3,002 vCash: 1945	Re: Is wladimir the greatest boxer of all time Comparing *anyone* to Ali or Tyson is retarded. Third biggest star in heavyweights is ridiculously way behind of them.. in popular culture.
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RUSKULL VRWC Executive Enforcer East Side VIP Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Long Island, New York & Clayton, North Carolina Posts: 23,358 vCash: 2811	Re: Is wladimir the greatest boxer of all time 1. Louis 2. Ali 3. Lewis 4. Marciano 5. Holmes 6. Foreman 7. Holyfield 8. Tyson 9. W. Klitschko 10. Dempsey That's roughly where I'd place Wladimir but if you ask me tomorrow, it might be different
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Masamune Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 531 vCash: 500	Re: Is wladimir the greatest boxer of all time Ive read that both Vitali and Wlad would toy with Ali and Holmes at any era of their careers - this type of retarded nut hugging does bring out the hate in a lot of boxing fans . Seriously , on historical context alone and because of the epic backdrop of his two fights with Louis I would rate Max Schmeling higher than Wlad Klitschko.
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