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Old 07-17-2011, 09:02 AM   #16
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Default Re: Marquez vs Ramos Fixed Fight !!! What a Great Tune up !!

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We're not boxers, dude. Of course we'd go down like a heap of shit.
its just a tuneup fight .. its not like it was gonna be a great fight either way. Marquez chose a bum on purpose. He's just trying to shake off a little rust before he fights pacquiao.
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Old 07-17-2011, 09:06 AM   #17
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its just a tuneup fight .. its not like it was gonna be a great fight either way. Marquez chose a bum on purpose. He's just trying to shake off a little rust before he fights pacquiao.
Of course. No one is denying that. The skeptics are just amused at how Ramos went down and closed his eyes. But you'd have to ask yourself how much ring rust was shaken off in that minute? If I were JMM or a JMM fan, I'd be extremely annoyed at the opponent for shortening his warm-up fight to a point where it done him no good what so ever. He'll now be heading into the Pacquiao fight with a only minute of fight activity in the past 12 months.
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Old 07-17-2011, 09:06 AM   #18
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Default Re: Marquez vs Ramos Fixed Fight !!! What a Great Tune up !!

At ~30 seconds it looks like he is having some small muscle spasms at the side of his pectoral muscle. GREAT acting job.
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Old 07-17-2011, 09:06 AM   #19
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wtf!
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Old 07-17-2011, 09:11 AM   #20
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Default Re: Marquez vs Ramos Fixed Fight !!! What a Great Tune up !!

What was Marquez's weight during the fight?
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Old 07-17-2011, 09:13 AM   #21
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I think it was more Ramos realising he was getting hammered and as soon as he was going he though ''stuff it, I aint getting back up''
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Old 07-17-2011, 09:15 AM   #22
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I think it was a legit KO. A bum can be knocked out cold by that punch.
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Old 07-17-2011, 09:19 AM   #23
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Not a fix. He was legitimately knocked down, he just didnt want to get up. He could have probably got up in 10 seconds but would have been counted out either way. Not a fix, just an overreaction.
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Old 07-17-2011, 09:26 AM   #24
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Ramos got clipped at the sweet spot.
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Old 07-17-2011, 10:18 AM   #25
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Pacquiao pick a much dangerous opponent (larios) for a tune up fight before facing morales for the second time
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Old 07-17-2011, 10:28 AM   #26
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I agreee it looks fake but I'm not going to say its fake necessary. I can't imagine why Arum would pay off Ramos since this fight was an OBVIOUS gimme for Marquez.

And don't blame Marquez if this was a fix because he did his job and whacked Ramos with a great punch.
I'm not saying Arum paid anyone off. However, if he did, there could be a couple of reasons why. One, he might not wanted to have risked Marquez getting cut or injuring hands and therefore postponing the Pacquaio fight. Two, he might not have wanted Marquez to get rounds in so that he could be at his best leading up to the Pac fight. There's also the chance someone bet good money on a first round stoppage and convinced/threatened Ramos.

Again I can't say for sure if the fight was fixed. However, the KO did look suspect and there are plenty of reasons for Likar to take a dive in the first round.
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Old 07-17-2011, 11:33 AM   #27
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Maybe he wasn't out cold but rather FUCKED up bad and decided fuck that I'm staying down! That could always be what happened... It was a HARD hit!
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Old 07-17-2011, 11:35 AM   #28
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juan is a monster!
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Old 07-17-2011, 11:36 AM   #29
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I'm not saying Arum paid anyone off. However, if he did, there could be a couple of reasons why. One, he might not wanted to have risked Marquez getting cut or injuring hands and therefore postponing the Pacquaio fight. Two, he might not have wanted Marquez to get rounds in so that he could be at his best leading up to the Pac fight. There's also the chance someone bet good money on a first round stoppage and convinced/threatened Ramos.

Again I can't say for sure if the fight was fixed. However, the KO did look suspect and there are plenty of reasons for Likar to take a dive in the first round.
thats all speculations, but boxers themselves should know if they really did hurt their opponent(vitali-solis). It would be interesting to hear marquez side of the story regarding that punch and the result. That looks obviously like a dive but the normal reaction from marquez should be disappointing instead he wasn't, why I say marquez should have acted like vitali is because knowing if his opponent fake and took a dive is disrespectful. Its not only disrespect to marquez and the fans but a disgrace to the sport as well, so you could add in your theories that marquez also had something to do with it.
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Old 07-17-2011, 11:56 AM   #30
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id like to to see yall take that punch to the jaw and see how you react. But even if he was faking it was tuneup fight either way. Marquez isnt going to risk losing and fucking up his deal with Pacquiao.

We all know Pac worshiping shitheels like you don't care if fights are fixed. If you cared you wouldn't be so Pactarded.
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