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Old 07-19-2011, 12:57 PM   #1
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Default Benny Leonard v Julio Caesar Chavez at lightweight

Who wins this battle of greats ?
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Old 07-19-2011, 12:59 PM   #2
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Benny Leonard by close UD, though he takes more hurt than he dishes out.
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Old 07-19-2011, 02:10 PM   #3
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Benny finishes what Meldrick Taylor, Pernell Whitaker, Rocky Lockridge and Juan LaPorte failed to complete. Leonard too tough, too smart, too durable and too skilled not to take a clear UD with both at their respective bests. (For Chavez, I'm figuring that would be his domination of Rosario at 135.) Unlike Meldrick and Pernell, he had sufficient firepower to keep JCC honest. If LaPorte could buckle Julio, then Benny could definitely do it. (Yes, I realize that works both ways, but Leonard also had mad survival skills.)
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Old 07-19-2011, 02:16 PM   #4
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Mad survival skills and what seems like a brilliant method of maintaining a fast outboxing game and conserving energy.
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Old 07-19-2011, 02:37 PM   #5
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Mad survival skills and what seems like a brilliant method of maintaining a fast outboxing game and conserving energy.
Unfortunately we have never seen the best of Benny Leonard who kod 69 opponents. We have only 2 films of Leonard beating a great southpaw Lew
Tendler. Leonarde of his prime, was considered just as unbeatable as a lightweight,as was Ray Robinson, as a welterweight. Too fast on his feet for Chavez, and a sharper two-handed puncher. Leonard by unanimous decision.
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Old 07-19-2011, 03:29 PM   #6
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Chavez mauls him
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Old 07-19-2011, 06:34 PM   #7
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Chavez of '87 at 135 pounds was an animal.... I have never seen Bad Benny Leonard fight a full fight in his prime on film.... Of course both men are / were great, but I'm bold and picking Chavez to beat a circa--1920 Leonard at lightweight......

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Old 07-19-2011, 06:37 PM   #8
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We've never seen Leonard fight a technically great pressure fighter that was an animal like Chavez so it's very much unknown territory
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Old 07-19-2011, 06:37 PM   #9
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Chavez mauls him

In a winning or losing effort, P?
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Old 07-19-2011, 07:00 PM   #10
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this is tough to call but i'll take leonard in a close fight.
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Old 07-19-2011, 07:31 PM   #11
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Benny Leonard by UD, much better boxer
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Old 07-19-2011, 07:31 PM   #12
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I think Leonards ability to punch and move would serve him well here. He would no doubt take tremendous punishment but should be able to take a comfortable UD.
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Old 07-19-2011, 08:51 PM   #13
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We've seen this fight in Whitaker/Chavez. Leonard is Whitaker and Chavez is Chavez. The only diffrance is that Leonard fights out of an orthodox stance and he hits harder than welterweight Whitaker. I don't see this being a close fight at all.
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Old 07-19-2011, 09:52 PM   #14
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Benny by UD
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Old 07-20-2011, 04:50 AM   #15
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From what I've read of the 'Ghetto Wizard' he'd outpoint Chavez in a close thriller.
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