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Old 07-20-2011, 05:21 PM   #46
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gas and air son im gonna leave you unconscious ,is he for real he boxed on the back foot against a glorified journey man who threw no punches.
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Old 07-20-2011, 05:23 PM   #47
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Kinda agree with that, he is capable of knocking Clev out but Clev is also capable of knocking him out.

Cleverly has more chance of knocking out Bellew as he is far better.

Could be a good fight more than should.
I disagree ya know. i dont think, in fact im pretty much sure, that cleverley doesnt have the power to keep bellew down and due to clevs good chin i wouldnt be surprised if bellew couldnt knock him out neither.
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Old 07-20-2011, 05:24 PM   #48
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gas and air son im gonna leave you unconscious ,is he for real he boxed on the back foot against a glorified journey man who threw no punches.
exactly. the bellew v cleverley fight is pretty much made so of course bellew is gonna play it safe. ovil only had one chance, to knock bellew out with a right hand and bellew took it away from him. good, safe, smart boxing. he will make a lot of money.
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Old 07-21-2011, 02:11 AM   #49
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Id love Hopkins to fight the winner and just take them to school.

They both get on my nerves. A double knockout would be nice
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Old 07-21-2011, 10:59 AM   #50
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Which bit doesn't Tony have? Because he has proved he certainly has a chin.

Goign down against Bob and Mckenzie. Yeah what a chin
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Old 07-21-2011, 11:01 AM   #51
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exactly. the bellew v cleverley fight is pretty much made so of course bellew is gonna play it safe. ovil only had one chance, to knock bellew out with a right hand and bellew took it away from him. good, safe, smart boxing. he will make a lot of money.

Its Ovil freaking McKenzie mate. You're making him out to be some monster puncher
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Old 07-21-2011, 11:04 AM   #52
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cant believe some of the crap thats getting chatted on this subject. people are saying clev will k.o bellew and in quick fashion. are yous all on drugs???

since when has feather fist cleverly ever and i mean ever been able to punch. he is a fighter who grinds people down, any1 who knows anything about boxing knows cleverly cant punch to save his life.

people might argue on who will win and how, but to say cleverly by k.o and early k.o, well thats just utter shit

imo bellew will k.o cleverly inside the first 6, the reason i say this is coz i know bellew is a hige puncher at this weight, and also what every1 keeps forgetting is that altho bellew was put down by ovil with a heavy shot he bounced right back up, but what about when joe vegas put cleverly on his ass and he could barley stand. yes it was a long time ago but still people are making out like cleverly hasnt been hurt. i was there that night and cleverly was gone. he also was very lucky to win the fight.

how people can say cleverly will k.o bellew when there is no evidence to suggest that what so ever. he may out box him or ware him down but he does not have the 1 punch power to even shake bellew up.

the fight is on! take it from me

we will now see who is going to do what once and for all
Sorry what result was it that got you thinking bellew will KO Cleverly inside 6? When he could not do that to either Bob or Ovil? He ran saturday night he didnt box, he ran and maoned at the ref everytime mckenzie got close. Tony Bellew has got eveyone beliving that Ovil McKenzie is a massive puncher, in the words of an annoying teenage american

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Old 07-21-2011, 11:13 AM   #53
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Gotta admire Bellew for getting himself in the Cleverly picture when he clearly doesn't merit it. He's done the hype stuff pretty well without straying into Haye of Fury-like territory. I hope it's a good pay day though, because he is going to get picked apart.
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Old 07-21-2011, 01:24 PM   #54
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Actually this looks as if it could build into an interesting rivalry.

I suspect both are chinny.
I suspect Cleverly is the better boxer and has better stamina.
I suspect Cleverly makes the weight easier.
I think Bellew fought scared in that fight against a "Puncher" with 25% KO ratio.
Cleverly was rocked bad by that WBO challenger.
Bellew is going to be the bad guy, Cleverly the good.
I just love that Liverpool accent.
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Old 07-21-2011, 02:41 PM   #55
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Considering this will undoubtedly be Cleverly's toughest fight to date, I can't understand why these Valley boys are trying to slate Bellew's record...

Personally think the valley rat still has a lot to prove, don't buy the 'world' title for one second since he won it outside of the ring and defended it once against a 48hour stand in who still managed to wobble him.

I want to like Clev but he believes his own hype way too much and is waiting to get exposed in my opinion, unless he stops sticking his chin out and laughing when he gets buzzed. Will be interesting to see if he tries it against Bellew, as he will clearly try and take the 'fookin rat's head off
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Old 07-21-2011, 04:46 PM   #56
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I like both guys and i have no doubt Bellew can knock Cleverly out especially as Cleverly likes to trade.

But i doubt how bellew will defend against Cleverlys attacks his defence didnt look great on sat Mckenzie wasnt really active enough to keep any sort of sustained attack up.
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Old 07-21-2011, 04:58 PM   #57
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I genuinely feel sorry for him, when his bubbles bursts he will have trouble dealing with it just you guys wait and see...

Cleverly has the pin to the bubble with his punch output and variation just aslong as he boxes and doesn't brawl...
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Old 07-21-2011, 05:24 PM   #58
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I genuinely feel sorry for him, when his bubbles bursts he will have trouble dealing with it just you guys wait and see...

Cleverly has the pin to the bubble with his punch output and variation just aslong as he boxes and doesn't brawl...

if Clev outmans him and beats him at his own game, which is very possible, bellew may never recover.

Fact is, he has the raw materials but he would greatly improve his chances if he got top quality training and sparring in the US. He is in danger of becoming the next Enzo. Could Clev be his Haye??
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Old 07-21-2011, 05:42 PM   #59
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if Clev outmans him and beats him at his own game, which is very possible, bellew may never recover.

Fact is, he has the raw materials but he would greatly improve his chances if he got top quality training and sparring in the US. He is in danger of becoming the next Enzo. Could Clev be his Haye??
I can see Clev pretending he's gonna come in fighting as a brawler and Tony going all out and blowing his load and being stopped late. Remember Macintosh? he had a higher ko ratio than bellew and fought as good competition if not better (he was euro champ after the clev fight lets not forget) and he got absolutely spanked when they fought. Granted bellew has a better brain than danny mac but the outcome will be the same.

Clev is massively under-rated and bellew massively over-rated imho. He tactics against a fighter with 10 losses is nothing short of a joke to be honest. Ovil is lhw version of Sprott or summat and no better yet bellew came all defensive like he was fighting a real top level fighter, 'master class' my ****ing arse, you wanna see a master class just watch froch fight abrham or summat.
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Old 07-21-2011, 06:02 PM   #60
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I can see Cleverly dominating Bellew to be honest; technically better, faster, seems to have a slightly better chin and clearly makes the weight no problem. I reckon he stops Tony in the middle rounds.
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