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Old 07-21-2011, 06:19 PM   #61
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The only thing Tony Bellew has over Nathan Cleverly is power.

Cleverly is faster, better technically, seems to have a better engine, and decent punch resistance aswell as Bellew.

I truly believe that the only way Tony Bellew will win, is by adopting the same tactics that a man named "Marvellous Marvin Hagler" adopted in 1985, when he came up against Thomas "The Hitman" Hearns.

In a fight named.........."War"

Right from the first bell, Tony Bellew needs to bring complete violence. Good old fashioned blood force trauma. He needs to be so violent, so raw in his approach that people will feel physical sick ringside. The minds games have already started, Nathan Cleverly thinks Tony Bellew is a complete lunatic and psycho.

In the last coming hours, before the opening bell. All these thoughts and impressions, do have a affect on a fighter.

And i really do think that Tony Bellew has to have some sort of psychological hold upon Nathan Cleverly before the opening bell. Just enough of a hold.....to make Nathan Cleverly tense, because thats as much as Cleverly will give.

"Because he has no fear of Tony Bellew as we speak"

So all in all, Bellew needs to bring violence. He needs to be simple, hit the body, hit the arms, over and over again.

Break his will!
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Old 07-21-2011, 06:20 PM   #62
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Right from the first bell, Tony Bellew needs to bring complete violence. Good old fashioned blood force trauma. He needs to be so violent, so raw in his approach that people will feel physical sick ringside. The minds games have already started, Nathan Cleverly thinks Tony Bellew is a complete lunatic and psycho.

In the last coming hours, before the opening bell. All these thoughts and impressions, do have a affect on a fighter.

And i really do think that Tony Bellew has to have some sort of psychological hold upon Nathan Cleverly before the opening bell. Just enough of a hold.....to make Nathan Cleverly tense, because thats as much as Cleverly will give.
this is what i'm talking about! WAR!!!!!!!!!!!! I wanna see Franky throwing up a ringside with Dean Powell looking disgusted.
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Old 07-21-2011, 06:34 PM   #63
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Sounded like Jim Royle. 'Gas n air son'
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Old 07-21-2011, 06:36 PM   #64
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I reckon Bellew would knock Cleverly out.

It's not really been brung up, but I don't think Clev has a good set of whiskers.

Bellew would check that chin
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Old 07-21-2011, 06:46 PM   #65
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Cleverly has better whiskers than him, and is the much better boxer. Nathan wins within 3.
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Old 07-21-2011, 06:48 PM   #66
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id like to see this fight but i cant actually believe people are picking tony to win. its cleverlys fight to lose, he only gets beat if he loses his head and i dont see that happening as he has his eyes on bigger things in time.
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Old 07-21-2011, 06:49 PM   #67
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What is this 'good old fashioned blood force trauma' Kool speaks of...
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Old 07-21-2011, 06:54 PM   #68
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Well Nathan got tagged by a non puncher but its hard to say whether he was that hurt so his chin could be suspect and a fight with Bellew needs to be next just to test himself before he takes on the elite at 175 but its hit and miss whether ****** would make the fight as im not sure how large Bellews following is compared to Nathans.

Still I can see Clev outboxing and wearing down Bellew to a late stoppage or a decent enough points win so long as he doesnt tire out.

WAR CLEV!!!!!!!
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Old 07-21-2011, 07:35 PM   #69
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It's not really been brung up, but I don't think Clev has a good set of whiskers.
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Old 07-21-2011, 08:39 PM   #70
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What is this 'good old fashioned blood force trauma' Kool speaks of...
Good old Fashioned blood force trauma.

Tony Bellew has to be so vividly violent, that children, young teenagers watching boxing for maybe the first time. Have nightmares, over "The Bomber".

People will be going sick ringside, and throwing up. Women will be screaming, replacing the chants of the drunken men in the crowd.

If Tony Bellew is to win, its going to be a 4 to 5 round fight tops. At the pace, i think he should fight at.

Predominantly the punches need to be coming straight down the middle, straight down the pipe.

"Straight hard punches, with formidable technique. I have noticed that Tony Bellew needs to work on, throwing good straight punches. Its something you get taught in the amateur boxing gyms in the north of Liverpool.......over and over again. Maybe he got to far detached from this style of aggression..........

He's not got the speed to be throwing, wide haymakers like David Haye.

So hard Straight punches.........And when he gets inside on Nathan Cleverly, unleash wide bombs to the body and arms.

Straight punches, then go to the body.......straight punches, then go to the body.

Over and over again!!!

Until Nathan Cleverly breaks..........

"I think Tony Bellew is a naturally a strong guy, but i am concerned with his strength come fight time, due to the all mighty effort it takes for him to get to the 175pound limit"

"Bellew needs to pull a David Haye, he needs to be training right now and on weight. Pretty much the same way David Haye prepared for Enzo Mac, after his Mormeck victory"

David Haye went straight back into training camp, so by the time the Enzo Mac fight came around. He had been in training for 9 months, and had been on the weight limit for a very long time.

The building blocks for success need to be put into action now!!!
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Old 07-21-2011, 08:51 PM   #71
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i think karo murat would leave tony bellew in a pool of his own blood, tony bellew is a trash talker and a shit boxer/fighter
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Old 07-21-2011, 08:56 PM   #72
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judging by saturdays performance Clev has little to worry about imo
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Old 07-21-2011, 08:58 PM   #73
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i think karo murat would leave tony bellew in a pool of his own blood, tony bellew is a trash talker and a shit boxer/fighter
Everyone's entitled to giving their own opinion.
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Old 07-22-2011, 04:41 AM   #74
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It's called BLUNT FORCE TRAUMA dopey bollocks.

Open your ears more next time you're cracking one off to Rocky VI.
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Old 07-22-2011, 04:45 AM   #75
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Cleverly is better than Bellew in every single department. Even if Cleverly is bad at something he is still better than Bellew at it.

Power
Speed
Accuracy
Shot Selection
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