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Old 07-19-2011, 08:23 PM   #1
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Default How the hell was liston Clay ever called a fix

I have never understood how it was called a fix when Liston was throwing absolute bombs all the way through and was clearly going for a kO.Clay was obviously on a different planet speed wise and fought an absolute masterclass.
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Old 07-19-2011, 08:25 PM   #2
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Christ on a cross.
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Old 07-19-2011, 08:29 PM   #3
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I don't personally believe the Clay-Liston was a fix but I definately have serious doubts about Muhammad Ali / X - Liston being a legit win.
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Old 07-19-2011, 08:29 PM   #4
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Yea and that invisible punch was awesome
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Old 07-19-2011, 08:33 PM   #5
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It is generally believed that the fight was fixed..........
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Old 07-19-2011, 08:35 PM   #6
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What I think may have happened was that Liston lost his mob connections a bit of money in the first fight and was persuaded to make them that money back in the next fight by losing in the first round.
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Old 07-19-2011, 08:38 PM   #7
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first fight wasnt , second was a dive
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Old 07-19-2011, 08:40 PM   #8
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first fight wasnt , second was a dive
Actually many believe both fights were fixed.
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Old 07-19-2011, 08:44 PM   #9
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Actually many believe both fights were fixed.

thats my point, i was refering to the first fight hence why i said clay.no way this is a fight,second fight liston should get up,it was a good punch that hit him but not one that would put someone like liston away
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Old 07-19-2011, 08:50 PM   #10
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thats my point, i was refering to the first fight hence why i said clay.no way this is a fight,second fight liston should get up,it was a good punch that hit him but not one that would put someone like liston away
I think in light of the second fight it made the first one also look suspicious. And with Liston pulling out of the first fight claiming an injury with no proof of one...........
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Old 07-19-2011, 09:04 PM   #11
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I think in light of the second fight it made the first one also look suspicious. And with Liston pulling out of the first fight claiming an injury with no proof of one...........
if you watch the fight liston is throwing murderous punches and hits clay with a number of good shots.liston basically reallised he was too slow to deal with clay and knew he was on his way to getting KO'd,that doesnt make it a fix though,if it was a fix he would of coasted more instead of goin in head first and being badly beaten up
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Old 07-19-2011, 09:08 PM   #12
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There were no fixed fights. Clay was suppose to die in the first fight! Well -- not literally die, but people were picking Liston by 1st or 2nd round KO. Poor Sonny just wasn't on Clay's level, and got his ass beat.

Liston was unhappy about pretty much everything before the rematch. He disliked the venue, he was ****ed about ticket sales and blamed the promoters, he was unhappy with his purse -- just everything -- Liston felt like he was get screwed financially, et, et. The promoters paid Sonny in advance. He had his money in the bank before the fight started. When he went down, he just said "**** it," and stayed down.
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Old 07-19-2011, 09:11 PM   #13
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liston was a shady mofo, thats fir sure
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Old 07-19-2011, 09:13 PM   #14
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It was the shock. NOBODY gave Ali a chance, so they assumed it had to a fix for him to win. Plus with Liston's background and Ali announcing his new religion people put 2 and 2 together and came up with 5.
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Old 07-19-2011, 09:16 PM   #15
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liston was a shady mofo, thats fir sure

to be fair he didnt have many breaks in life.the only people who pretended to give a **** about him and gave him an oportunity to make a living where villains
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