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View Poll Results: Do you agree with me on Jon Fitch?
Yes, he is one of the top guys but not a clear #2 13 46.43%
No, he is the undisputed #2 15 53.57%
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Old 07-22-2011, 09:05 AM   #1
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Who agrees with me, and who doesn't?

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I don't subscribe to this theory that Fitch is like GSP's underboss, far and away the second best in the division. I don't see it, and I really don't understand why this theory is so popular now. To me, Fitch is just one of the top welters, same as Jake Shields, Josh Koscheck, Carlos Condit, Jake Ellenberger, BJ Penn, I don't see why Fitch gets elevated above everyone else.

Since he got dominated by GSP (Shields gave GSP a better fight), who has he beaten to prove he's better than all the other guys???

Gono (5ft 7, coming off a loss to Dan Hardy), Thiago (has lost his last 2 to Sanchez and Kampmann), Pierce (hasn't beaten any top 10 fighters ever), Saunders (had been KO'd by Mike ****ing Swick not long before, lost to Dennis Hallman and got cut not long after) - none of these four wins amount to much, winning these fights certainly doesn't elevate a guy above all other welterweights.

Then another decision win over Alves, a feat recently replicated by Rick Story who went on to lose to Charlie Brennerman, and a draw with BJ Penn that many felt he didn't deserve.


Someone explain to me how these fights mean Fitch is regarded as a clear, undisputed division number 2??? I see nothing in these fights to suggest this. He's one of the top guys, nothing more IMO.
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Old 07-22-2011, 09:22 AM   #2
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Of the guys you mentioned

Shields maybe...
Kos no
Condit, rate him highly, but not yet
Jake Ellenburger, if he beats Shield, in with a shout
BJ......hell no
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Old 07-22-2011, 10:34 AM   #3
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i think at the moment he is a pretty clear #2

maybe that will change after a few more UFCs, but ww isn't all that exciting in ufc atm, imo
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Old 07-22-2011, 11:09 AM   #4
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Bit unfair to compare the way he beat Alves to the way Story did IMO. Fitch completely and utterly dominates Alves.
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Old 07-22-2011, 11:45 AM   #5
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Old 07-22-2011, 12:10 PM   #6
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Old 07-22-2011, 12:12 PM   #7
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Default Re: "I'm irritated, I'm tired of Jon Fitch"

13-1-1.

Hate the guy all you want but there is maybe just 1 guy in UFC history with a record better then his.

(Hint: He's the Middleweight Champion)
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I get the feeling you are dumb as ****.
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Old 07-22-2011, 12:17 PM   #10
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13-1-1.

Hate the guy all you want but there is maybe just 1 guy in UFC history with a record better then his.

(Hint: He's the Middleweight Champion)
I think the winner of the two Jakes is next for Fitch, dont think he'll get a shot at the Belt again until then
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Old 07-22-2011, 12:22 PM   #11
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Although, I did forget about Rashad Evans. I think his record is similar.

Don't quote me on this but I think his wins are (I know he has one loss and one draw) 10-1-1?

Boom! 10-1-1 exactly. Even Rashad Evans doesn't have a record as good as that of Jon Fitch.

Cain Velasquez has a perfect record in the UFC as well as JDS, and I did initially forget about them but they don't have the number of fights in the UFC that Fitch has (Let's say 10+, although I think JDS I something like 7? 8?).
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Spot on, Evans is 15-1-1 overall
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Old 07-22-2011, 12:28 PM   #13
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Fitch needs to get over himself IMO. Is he number 2 ? Yes but it isnt like hes come close to cleaning out 170 outside of GSP. Fitch didnt beat BJ and you still got Ellenberger, Diaz, Koscheck, Shields, Condit and others at 170.
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13-1-1.

Hate the guy all you want but there is maybe just 1 guy in UFC history with a record better then his.

(Hint: He's the Middleweight Champion)
Oh for **** sake.
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Old 07-22-2011, 01:26 PM   #15
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Fitch needs to get over himself IMO. Is he number 2 ? Yes but it isnt like hes come close to cleaning out 170 outside of GSP. Fitch didnt beat BJ and you still got Ellenberger, Diaz, Koscheck, Shields, Condit and others at 170.
Exactly. The fights he's had since getting ****ed up by GSP are not a group that put him way clear of everyone else, as most people say he is.
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