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Old 07-29-2011, 04:44 PM   #211
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I didn't write the article, or the title.
okay sry.

It is my fuken bad english. I dont know does it mean like just try to survive or try to win and survive?
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Old 07-29-2011, 04:55 PM   #212
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Adamek is not faster than Haye with handspeed or footspeed.

Really Adamek is barely faster than Vitali, & he has a lower workrate & much less power than Dr. Ironfist.
This is all very true, but Adamek does have heart, a good chin and a desire to win - unlike Haye, who is a giant ***** and showed up strictly to collect a large sum of money. Vitali does not have the one punch power to stop Adamek, but he can TKO him via corner stoppage.

Adamek's best chance is to dart in, land to the body, pivot out to the side and REPEAT. If he stands in front of Vitali he'll be crushed. If works the body early on and avoids return fire he'll have a shot to win a decision. The fight is in Poland afterall. Vitali doesn't know how to clinch like Wlad does and has no jab so if Adamek gets inside he should be able to land body shots. The hard part will be getting out of there! If he backs straight up he's gonna eat right hands. If he hangs out on the inside he's gonna eat uppercuts. Shit if he doens't move his head on the way in he's gonna eat arms punches from all angles. Dude MUST move his head on the way in and pivot to the side to get out.
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Old 07-29-2011, 06:12 PM   #213
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Style & the fact he's a natural lightheavy, hence his power & strength aren't impressive. His height is fine, taller than Brewster & Peter, who both have inflated height stats. When i said "struggle", i didn't mean "lose". I just meant he's been rocked quite a few times, considering his level of competition.
For the 10th time i ask again.Every single Adamek HW fight is up on youtube, besides getting rocked by Grant could you please provide video evidence to back your claim...once again i will be waiting.
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Old 07-30-2011, 10:25 AM   #214
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For the 10th time i ask again.Every single Adamek HW fight is up on youtube, besides getting rocked by Grant could you please provide video evidence to back your claim...once again i will be waiting.
BORKED


Watch for a second or two after the times i have given:

1:02, 1:23, 1:31, 2:09, 2:23
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Old 07-30-2011, 10:32 AM   #215
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BORKED


Watch for a second or two after the times i have given:

1:02, 1:23, 1:31, 2:09, 2:23
Thanks you finally followed through.

Now watch those same moments without the HBO commentary in slow motion and replayed several times.....then proceed to laugh as next to nothing is landing during those moments!

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUIXY7mZYYE[/ame]

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Old 07-30-2011, 10:41 AM   #216
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2:09 2:31.....because a punch land's it mean he's hurt???Are you serious.
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Old 07-30-2011, 10:52 AM   #217
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BORKED


Watch for a second or two after the times i have given:

1:02, 1:23, 1:31, 2:09, 2:23
after such punches guys like McCline were KOed, Adamek wasn't hurt. He was hit, nothing more. Hater.
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Old 07-30-2011, 11:10 AM   #218
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2:09 2:31.....because a punch land's it mean he's hurt???Are you serious.
He looked slightly rocked to me.

Maybe Adamek just has terrible balance?
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Old 07-30-2011, 11:12 AM   #219
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I think Adamek will last 12 rounds but lose in a devastating decision like Haye did because he simply cannot outbox Vitali.
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Old 07-30-2011, 11:14 AM   #220
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I thought Vitali was significantly slower in the Solis fight. Slower in his feet, reflexes, his timing seemed to be not all there. I know it was just one round but that was my pretty strong impression. If that is the case and he really finally got old (as a fighter), I give Adamek a chance. Especially if Vitali is too proud to notice his decrease and will fight too confident.

Other than that, I pretty much agree with the article. Adamek is a natural cruiser (not a light heavyweight) and just doesn't have the style to compete with natural HW's, unlike, say, Holyfield. I can't see how his great heart changes much here, since Vitali's heart isn't "smaller".
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Old 07-30-2011, 11:17 AM   #221
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He looked slightly rocked to me.

Maybe Adamek just has terrible balance?
At HW at times yes.

Watch when Grant rocks him.Adamek was truly hurt there.

In the Arreola fight the commentators got a little over excited when Adamek was off balance but Arreola never is really landing clean hard punches in those moments.The first "wobble" in that video if you rewatch in the second video is a weak arm punch that caught Adamek off balance right as he is trying to throw his own punch.He did get pushed off balance but to say he was hurt is just not true.
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Old 07-30-2011, 11:21 AM   #222
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At HW at times yes.

Watch when Grant rocks him.Adamek was truly hurt there.

In the Arreola fight the commentators got a little over excited when Adamek was off balance but Arreola never is really landing clean hard punches in those moments.The first "wobble" in that video if you rewatch in the second video is a weak arm punch that caught Adamek off balance right as he is trying to throw his own punch.He did get pushed off balance but to say he was hurt is just not true.
In fairness, Lennox Lewis did say Adamek has terrible balance (against Arreola).
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Old 07-30-2011, 11:23 AM   #223
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He looked slightly rocked to me.

Maybe Adamek just has terrible balance?
It's not terrible balance, it's the ability he has to move with the punch, so to lessen the absorbed energy.
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Old 07-30-2011, 11:36 AM   #224
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It's not terrible balance, it's the ability he has to move with the punch, so to lessen the absorbed energy.
I suppose you could argue that.



Looking at your avatar, Wach makes Fury look fit.
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Old 07-30-2011, 11:46 AM   #225
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I suppose you could argue that.



Looking at your avatar, Wach makes Fury look fit.
At this point in time I'd pick Wach over Fury.
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