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Old 07-29-2011, 12:54 AM   #61
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Nice and simple. Just the way you like it.

So you think both situations are similar? Khan has gone on to beat guys better then Prescott since his loss. So must avenge that or what? Never live it down to you? I'm sure Kostya Tszyu will jump to the idea he needs to come out of retirement to beat Vince Phillips in your eyes to redeem himself. And Hatton. Maybe Get Hops a third shot at Jermain taylor while your at it. Also, you must think Martinez should go back and avenge his loss to Margarito right? Wow Comp...you should just work for a promoter. It's just so easy for you to play matchmaker. You are obviously well versed in it.

You just don't see that Khan vs. Bradley is what makes sense for them. Prescott vs. Khan only makes sense for Prescott who's done nothing since his win over Khan.

But hey, you don't mind that Bradley sits even longer, avoids challenges and does nothing, or even worse, just feasts on hand picked safe foes do you? No, you just worry about his pocket book.
You are a complete ****ing idiot.

Khan could have fought Prescott (the only man to have defeated him) instead of that stupid Mccloskey fight which nobody wanted to see except Mccloskey himself (hence the fact that SKY downgraded it from PPV to regular TV in Britain).

Mccloskey did NOTHING to warrant that fight. Prescott has had some issues and losses, but he still had that win over Khan, a brutal KO win, and that fight would have had ALOT more interest from the public, especially in Britain.

The fact that the Mccloskey fight was a complete ****ing bore and that Khan looked awful just illustrates how usesless of a fight it was. And nobody cared about it. NOBODY!!

My point is that Bradley would have had to sign an extension with Gary Shaw to have that fight take place. This would have frozen him out of other big fights (especially the Pac fight, since Arum will never allow him to fight a non Top Rank fighter).

If he signs with GBP, the Khan fight is assured to happen. We could also see Bradley vs Maidana, Guerrero, Mathysse, the Morales-Barrios winner, or he could move up and fight PBF.

If he signs with Top Rank, there is the Pac fight, along with Rios or Mike Jones at 147.

If he stays with Shaw, none of those fights are likely to be made. I dont care about the man's pockets, but he is unhappy with Shaw ( as many, many other fighters have left him INCLUDING your anti Mayweather hero Pac) and if he signs with one of the 2 mentioned promoters, we get to see him in bigger fights and better matchups.

In other words, it's better for the sport.

I know you think all fighters should be easily led lemmings who fight just to make thier promoters happy, but if you stop being a ****wit for 5 minutes, you will see that Bradley does want the bigger fights. He just doesnt want to keep being raped by Shaw.
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Old 07-29-2011, 01:03 AM   #62
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black american fighters are scared cunts...
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Old 07-29-2011, 01:06 AM   #63
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black american fighters are scared cunts...
I smell Eurotrash.
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Old 07-29-2011, 01:06 AM   #64
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Timothy believes he deserves Floyd or Manny. At the end of the day, style aside he always gets the job done. before Alexander lost his allure, the fight with Bradley was talked about for some time as one of the best match ups in boxing. Bradley made Devon quit.
He is like a Mayweather in a way; it looks like he is beatable on the outside but he is tougher when the bell sounds. game plans can go out the window with a fighter like Bradley. he's 4 real + not ducking nobody.
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Timothy believes he deserves Floyd or Manny. At the end of the day, style aside he always gets the job done. before Alexander lost his allure the fight with Bradley was talked about for some time as one of the best match ups in boxing and Bradley made him quit. He is like a Mayweather in a way in that it looks like he is beatable on the outside but he is tougher when the bell sounds. game plans can go out the window with fighter like Bradley. he's 4 real.
But Khan is an unbeatable wrecking machine, who instills fear in the hearts of all men. He is ****ing indestructible!!
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If that aint fear, that sure is lack of confidence. Its like " i'm not fighting Khan cause there's a high possibility of me losing, and i'll end up with nothing"
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Timothy believes he deserves Floyd or Manny. At the end of the day, style aside he always gets the job done. before Alexander lost his allure, the fight with Bradley was talked about for some time as one of the best match ups in boxing. Bradley made Devon quit.
He is like a Mayweather in a way; it looks like he is beatable on the outside but he is tougher when the bell sounds. game plans can go out the window with a fighter like Bradley. he's 4 real + not ducking nobody.

Everybody believe they deserve a shot at Pac or May, but truth is, most of em know what they should do to get that fight, and that is by eliminating the competition. You dont just go infront of the line.
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Old 07-29-2011, 01:16 AM   #68
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But Khan is an unbeatable wrecking machine, who instills fear in the hearts of all men. He is ****ing indestructible!!
Khan is very good but the Judah fight was more that Zab was caught up making a major change with Pernell. he was so focused on defense it seemed they didn't plan how to return fire and do it in a way to negate Khan's extension.
You have to stalk and crowd Khan to back him up here and there. Amir is a groove fighter once he is flowing he will dominate.
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Fear of not making as much money, yes.. Fear of Khan? Doubtful.
Tim Bradley can still make money if he loses. He has no balls and is afraid of losing.
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Let's not take this argue into the gutter. Okay, Eurotrash?
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Old 07-29-2011, 01:22 AM   #71
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Tim Bradley can still make money if he loses. He has no balls and is afraid of losing.
I wonder who makes his headgear ? it has to be custom made.
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Khan is very good but the Judah fight was more that Zab was caught up making a major change with Pernell. he was so focused on defense it seemed they didn't plan how to return fire and do it in a way to negate Khan's extension.
You have to stalk and crowd Khan to back him up here and there. Amir is a groove fighter once he is flowing he will dominate.
Zab did absolutely nothing and really looked like a fighter in serious decline.

Khan has some decent handspeed and pop, and his fundamentals are decent, but he is not p4p material just yet. He defense sucks, and he lunges in way too much.
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Old 07-29-2011, 01:27 AM   #73
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Quite clearly he is scared of losing and losing out on big money fights at Welter. So if hes scared of losing and wont face Khan incase he does thats as good as sayin he is scared of Khan.

If he was convinced hed beat him like he claims to be then whats the problem? Face him, beat him and move on. And if his fanbase isnt so great then a win over Khan does that.

Dodging him and gettin a massive royal kicking off Floyd or Manny is guna do what for his career? Give him 1 big pay day and then what?

Anyway that guy is no Welterweight, hes not built to be a Welterweight hes not even got the punching power of a Lightweight.

So in short, if hes avoiding Khan cuz he doesnt wana get beat then hes scared of Khan. If he had all the belief hed beat Khan he would NOT miss out on the oppertunity to unify the 140 division before moving up.
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Bradley "is" ducking Khan!
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If he is "ducking" him, it is not out of fear..

You have to understand, someone like Amir Khan or Miguel Cotto can afford to lose a big fight because they have a huge fan base, and their name is already established and out there.

Tim Bradley does not have that popularity or fan base, this is not due to his skill, but his lack of "flash" maybe.

If he loses to Amir Khan, his name is out of all of these conversations, the prospect of a fight with Khan, is why his name is brought up so much, and is what keeps him relevant as far as big, big money fights go. If he lost to Khan (not to say that I, or he even thinks he would), that is gone, at least for the time being until he builds up a few more good wins.

Those are my thoughts on the situation, he has taken very risky fights and always been a warrior, this is merely a business move, and in my opinion, a smart one.
This is an important point that gets overlooked in this kind of situation, and I certainly understand it as at least partly justifying Bradley not taking the fight on the 23rd (as he would not even have the protection of a contract with a promoter for future fights). The problem now however is the fact that his ruling out a Khan fight again is giving him more of a reputation as a ducker. There may be perfectly valid business reasons for still not wanting to take the fight, but I think the damage to his reputation might be just as bad as any loss.

By the end of the year, Khan may hold 3 of the 4 belts at 140 (to become "undisputed"), thus even further undermining Bradley's claim to being the best in the division. This combined with the hit to the reputation Bradley has taken so far and his obscurity makes me think that his viability as a Pacquiao or Mayweather opponent has decreased drastically over the past few months, even without a loss.
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