Monzon v hopkins

steve w · 08-03-2011, 08:16 AM

Brutal or boring ?

WhataRock · 08-03-2011, 08:24 AM

Frustratingly awesome.

PhillyPhan69 · 08-03-2011, 08:33 AM

Technically brilliant and extremely exciting in a tactical way for true fans of the sweet science...

extremely boring to the casual fan....you know the ones who think gatti vs ward is a masterpeice between 2 top notch boxers.

bodhi · 08-03-2011, 08:36 AM

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JohnThomas1 · 08-03-2011, 09:21 AM

I think it would get exciting toward the end because either one would be trying to catch up or both would be trying to break away.

Bummy Davis · 08-03-2011, 11:44 AM

Great fight to watch on the science side...I like Monzon to wear down B-Hop and win a close UD

red cobra · 08-03-2011, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Bummy Davis

Great fight to watch on the science side...I like Monzon to wear down B-Hop and win a close UD

..that's the way I see it.

he grant · 08-03-2011, 05:47 PM

I see Hopkins being too much and winning a decision ...

EverLast · 08-09-2011, 08:34 AM

Hopkins is a great, great fighter.

But with Monzon, you had this guy who was just so proficient and perfect in the way he fought.....this is just completely unpredictable....but my gut says Monzon

red cobra · 08-09-2011, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by PhillyPhan69

Technically brilliant and extremely exciting in a tactical way for true fans of the sweet science...

extremely boring to the casual fan....you know the ones who think gatti vs ward is a masterpeice between 2 top notch boxers.

The great "casual fight fan". The nuances of boxing are too much for them.

Hank · 08-10-2011, 03:38 AM

great bout, Monzon was so strong on inside, guys who tried to get in on him said it was like being grabbed by guy with steel arms. I'd pick Monzon in close fight. If anyone scored ko, it would be Monzon. I saw him once, live, will never forget it. He had a right hand that seemed to land so fast, like it was thrown with so little effort, lands so fast, and explodes on guys face. I only saw Hopkins live once too, but in fight he won easy, so it was tough to judge him as much, but I go with Monzon .
Pound for pound, only right hand landed so amazingly was Duran, but Monzon did it so smooth it looked like slow motion in a way. I just wish he had fought in United States more.

young griffo · 08-10-2011, 04:40 AM

Why the scorn for Gatti-Ward??

It's one of the best fights I've ever seen and proof positive that you don't need two great fighters to produce a great fight.

This fight embodies what makes boxing great imo.

As to the thread since one of them is Bernard Hopkins and the other is Carlos Monzon then it would be shit to watch.

Both are too proficient in every way to be exposed by the other and both are brilliant at making mid fight adjustments to exploit/remedy a flaw.

I reckon they would nullify each other for an extremely close decision either way.

laxpdx · 08-10-2011, 04:56 AM

Monzon by boring UD. Hopkins can't hurt him. If he tries to get closer, Monzon will tie him up.

Bollox · 08-10-2011, 05:38 AM

Both boring and brutal. Starts off boring until about round 8 when Monzon's superiority well and truly starts to come through. Then the brutality begins

Different level of fighters

Bokaj · 08-10-2011, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by steve w

Brutal or boring ?

Both.

08-03-2011, 08:16 AM	#1
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08-03-2011, 08:24 AM	#2
WhataRock Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Sydney Posts: 13,403 vCash: 166	Re: Monzon v hopkins Frustratingly awesome.
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PhillyPhan69 Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Salisbury, MD Posts: 3,712 vCash: 1000	Re: Monzon v hopkins Technically brilliant and extremely exciting in a tactical way for true fans of the sweet science... extremely boring to the casual fan....you know the ones who think gatti vs ward is a masterpeice between 2 top notch boxers.
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08-03-2011, 09:21 AM	#5
JohnThomas1 Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 12,184 vCash: 1000	Re: Monzon v hopkins I think it would get exciting toward the end because either one would be trying to catch up or both would be trying to break away.
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08-03-2011, 11:44 AM	#6
Bummy Davis Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: New York Posts: 8,194 vCash: 1000	Re: Monzon v hopkins Great fight to watch on the science side...I like Monzon to wear down B-Hop and win a close UD
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he grant Historian/Film Maker East Side Guru Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 6,478 vCash: 1000	Re: Monzon v hopkins I see Hopkins being too much and winning a decision ...
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08-09-2011, 08:34 AM	#9
EverLast Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,352 vCash: 1000	Re: Monzon v hopkins Hopkins is a great, great fighter. But with Monzon, you had this guy who was just so proficient and perfect in the way he fought.....this is just completely unpredictable....but my gut says Monzon
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08-10-2011, 03:38 AM	#11
Hank Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,726 vCash: 1000	Re: Monzon v hopkins great bout, Monzon was so strong on inside, guys who tried to get in on him said it was like being grabbed by guy with steel arms. I'd pick Monzon in close fight. If anyone scored ko, it would be Monzon. I saw him once, live, will never forget it. He had a right hand that seemed to land so fast, like it was thrown with so little effort, lands so fast, and explodes on guys face. I only saw Hopkins live once too, but in fight he won easy, so it was tough to judge him as much, but I go with Monzon . Pound for pound, only right hand landed so amazingly was Duran, but Monzon did it so smooth it looked like slow motion in a way. I just wish he had fought in United States more.
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08-10-2011, 04:40 AM	#12
young griffo Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,978 vCash: 1000	Re: Monzon v hopkins Why the scorn for Gatti-Ward?? It's one of the best fights I've ever seen and proof positive that you don't need two great fighters to produce a great fight. This fight embodies what makes boxing great imo. As to the thread since one of them is Bernard Hopkins and the other is Carlos Monzon then it would be shit to watch. Both are too proficient in every way to be exposed by the other and both are brilliant at making mid fight adjustments to exploit/remedy a flaw. I reckon they would nullify each other for an extremely close decision either way.
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08-10-2011, 04:56 AM	#13
laxpdx Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 2,386 vCash: 1000	Re: Monzon v hopkins Monzon by boring UD. Hopkins can't hurt him. If he tries to get closer, Monzon will tie him up.
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08-10-2011, 05:38 AM	#14
Bollox Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,109 vCash: 500	Re: Monzon v hopkins Both boring and brutal. Starts off boring until about round 8 when Monzon's superiority well and truly starts to come through. Then the brutality begins Different level of fighters
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