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Old 07-02-2007, 11:16 PM   #16
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Talentless was harsh, yes. I don't rate him at all as a boxer though. Compared to Hopkins, he is though. Amongst his peers he is, so I'll stick with it
Well he's not getting a mention in that natural athlete thread put it that way...and if we start a "technically gifted" thread he wouldn't appear in that either.
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Old 07-02-2007, 11:56 PM   #17
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I'm not overly impressed with Baer, sure he did have crushin power and a proven chin, but his boxing ability leaves a bit to be desired. He was good but nothing special to me. Hopkins is a master at his craft, and I'd put him in the top 10 middleweights of all-time. I think he'd do o.k for himself against Baer. I think he wins a few rounds and actually lasts into the mid to late rounds. But sooner or later Baer is going to land something big and eventually stop Hopkins. I really can't see Hopkins standing up to a big punching heavyweight like Baer. The difference in skill makes this fight interesting but the difference in size makes the outcome a Baer ko.
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Old 07-03-2007, 12:38 AM   #18
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Bullshit about Baer not be a physically gifted athlete! That guy was considered the specimen of athletic prowess in his time. A great boxer, no. But a gifted puncher, one of the very best.

And of yeah, Baer KO's Hopkins in 5.
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Old 07-03-2007, 10:49 AM   #19
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Bullshit about Baer not be a physically gifted athlete.
Well I didn't actually go that far.

More a suggestion that he doesn't immediatley spring to mind as being a natural athlete, and probably won't get a mention in that thread.
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Old 07-03-2007, 10:56 AM   #20
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he has the chin to take what Bear can dish out
The guy has never fought above light heavyweight yet you are confident that he can take the punches of possibly the hardest punching heavyweight in history?
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Old 07-03-2007, 10:58 AM   #21
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Les Kennedy, Johnny Risko (57-38-7), Jim Braddock and a shit load of bums who went to distence with him
If you are calling Johny Risko and Jimmy Braddock bums then you need to learn more about the era.
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Old 07-03-2007, 01:57 PM   #22
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I never called him a bum

Read it again i said a shit load of bums who went to distence with him sepperating the first 3 from the rest



id of said and aload of other bums if i was grouping them together
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Old 12-02-2007, 10:59 PM   #23
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Max ko in 8, no way Hop could stand up to max power if Max was at his best.
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Old 12-03-2007, 02:31 AM   #24
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Especially against naturally small fighters like Spinks and Patterson.
Spinks naturally small? Surely you jest.
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Old 12-03-2007, 06:47 AM   #25
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[quote=hopkinsfan07]Hopkins would outbox him all night he has the chin to take what Bear can dish out[/qu
hopkinsfan07, you are new to boxing aren't you? It's either that or you're delusional. Max Baer, though not one of the skilled heavyweights in history compared to others, was a murderous hitter, and one, just one of his punches would have landed on Hopkin's chin, and the birdies would sing for Bernard. He would think he was hit by a truck.
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Old 12-03-2007, 02:44 PM   #26
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I don't feel Hopkins has the foot speed to beat Baer for a guy as small as Bernard to win he needs to hit and run like Loughran. But don't feel he would be able to and remember Mercado have Hopkins hurt and down and Baer hits much, much harder.
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Old 12-03-2007, 03:03 PM   #27
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lamotta had one of the best chins in boxing history and look what ray robinson did in their last fight.

That is just a horrible comparison. The more I think about it the dumber it gets. Wow. Dude. That was awful.
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Old 12-03-2007, 03:03 PM   #28
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Hopkins has a great chin , but not happening against Baer.
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Old 12-03-2007, 03:04 PM   #29
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I'd say Hopkins has a chance or outboxing Baer and lasting the distance to get a decision, but that chance is small. I'm pretty sure Baer would land something sooner or later and get Hopkins out of there, probably late.

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Old 12-03-2007, 03:10 PM   #30
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I'd say Hopkins has a chance or outboxing Baer and lasting the distance to get a decision, but that chance is small. I'm pretty sure Baer would land something sooner or later and get Hopkins out of there, probably late.
I agree, there is no doubting the greatness of Hopkins , but if Max was focused then he would probably overwhelm him after a bit
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