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Old 08-04-2011, 08:14 PM   #1
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Just to get this out of the way i am NOT a Racist

Was racism good for boxing?

I always read posts on here about how black african american fighters have no heart and then on screen we get to see fighters like Devon Alexander quit
Hell even sugar shane was asking his trainer to stop it,

So my question is simple was racism good for boxing?

When Americans were racist we had great fighters like Ali, frazier and countless others, we even hear how life was very tough for them outside ropes and it made them work harder and fight even harder once they stepped into the squared circle.....Joe frazier had to leave his home because of racism, Ali was discriminated against.......

Do you really think Alexander would have quit against Bradley if people were racist, if anything i believe it would have pushed alexander to perform better and fight harder.

Now i do not support racism, hell i'm not even white but was it good for boxing? as it helped some fighters push themselves to greatness.

Was racism good for boxing?
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Old 08-04-2011, 08:23 PM   #3
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Racism is not good for anything.

The US had lots of legendary black boxers in the past because boxing was more popular as a participant sport back then. There were about 4 times as many boxing gyms in the US in the 1980s as there are today. When there are less participants in a sport, there is generally a smaller pool of talent.
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Old 08-04-2011, 08:27 PM   #4
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Racism is not good for anything.

The US had lots of legendary black boxers in the past because boxing was more popular as a participant sport back then. There were about 4 times as many boxing gyms in the US in the 1980s as there are today. When there are less participants in a sport, there is generally a smaller pool of talent.
so are you saying boxing is dying?

because the revenue from fights today is much larger than anything in the past..
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hahaha honestly r u ****ing retarded jesus christ wowwww
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Old 08-04-2011, 08:29 PM   #6
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hahaha honestly r u ****ing retarded jesus christ wowwww
cmon budd i know its a bad topic but it had me thinking for a while now......
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PPV killed boxing.
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Just to get this out of the way i am NOT a Racist

Was racism good for boxing?

I always read posts on here about how black african american fighters have no heart and then on screen we get to see fighters like Devon Alexander quit
Hell even sugar shane was asking his trainer to stop it,

So my question is simple was racism good for boxing?

When Americans were racist we had great fighters like Ali, frazier and countless others, we even hear how life was very tough for them outside ropes and it made them work harder and fight even harder once they stepped into the squared circle.....Joe frazier had to leave his home because of racism, Ali was discriminated against.......

Do you really think Alexander would have quit against Bradley if people were racist, if anything i believe it would have pushed alexander to perform better and fight harder.

Now i do not support racism, hell i'm not even white but was it good for boxing? as it helped some fighters push themselves to greatness.

Was racism good for boxing?
I think you're saying growing up in an environment where you're constantly discriminated against due to racism leaves the anger that can be used as a crutch inside the boxing ring?
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Old 08-04-2011, 08:35 PM   #9
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Just to get this out of the way i am NOT a Racist

Was racism good for boxing?

I always read posts on here about how black african american fighters have no heart and then on screen we get to see fighters like Devon Alexander quit
Hell even sugar shane was asking his trainer to stop it,

So my question is simple was racism good for boxing?

When Americans were racist we had great fighters like Ali, frazier and countless others, we even hear how life was very tough for them outside ropes and it made them work harder and fight even harder once they stepped into the squared circle.....Joe frazier had to leave his home because of racism, Ali was discriminated against.......

Do you really think Alexander would have quit against Bradley if people were racist, if anything i believe it would have pushed alexander to perform better and fight harder.

Now i do not support racism, hell i'm not even white but was it good for boxing? as it helped some fighters push themselves to greatness.

Was racism good for boxing?
what is with all this "when" and "if" stuff?

i'm sure your not one of those people who believe racism in america is dead

racism is good kind of because more people of different races show up or order fights to support "their" fighters
which gives boxing more fans if you think of it that way
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Old 08-04-2011, 08:37 PM   #11
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I think you're saying growing up in an environment where you're constantly discriminated against due to racism leaves the anger that can be used as a crutch inside the boxing ring?
yes exactly things are being given to fighters on a platter compared to past times, is this one of the reasons why fighters from europe/Russia are tougher? not saying that they are all tough but a lot of them are
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so are you saying boxing is dying?

because the revenue from fights today is much larger than anything in the past..
No. Believe he's saying the US has so many other options for athletically gifted individuals boxing isn't one of the major options anymore. NFL, NBA, shit like that pays more and you don't get punched for a living.
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unhappiness in childhood that leaves lifelong anger is a great asset for boxers

Sugar Ray Leonard admits in his book that watching his parents fight as a child and almost being molested twice fueled the anger and cruelty to be used for boxing

Floyd Jr admits had his father never beat his AZZ as a child, he wouldn't have the anger and frustration to take out by beating opponents' AZZes

Muhammad Ali was a witness to domestic abuse and vicitm of racism himself
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what is withe all this "when" and "if" stuff?

i'm sure your not one of those people who believe racism in america is dead
well its gone down significantly compared to what it used to be
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so are you saying boxing is dying?

because the revenue from fights today is much larger than anything in the past..
Boxing remains a big (or big enough) spectator sport. Revenue is bigger because PPV costs more just like anything today compared to the past. As a participant sport, boxing is at an all time low at least in the US. Oscar De La Hoya is making efforts to revive the sport by promoting some programs (weekend boxing nights) like they used to in the past.
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