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Old 08-06-2011, 04:43 PM   #1
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Default how long does it take to advance shoulder strength to 50kg with 3-5 rep training

say you max out shoulder press is 20kg for 5 reps each shoulder currently ,

how long would it take to get to 50kg each shoulder for 3-5 reps?

thoughts please, ***because the way i see it probably will take years***

i aint done much 3-5 rep training but i want to know how quick you progress??
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Old 08-06-2011, 05:38 PM   #2
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Nobody could answer this, strength gains always come down to the individual. It could take weeks, months or years depending on yourself and the way you train and eat.

Why does it matter how long it takes to get to that weight?
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Old 08-06-2011, 09:25 PM   #3
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Only thing that can be said for certain is that the sooner you start the sooner you will get there.
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Old 08-06-2011, 10:52 PM   #4
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Nobody could answer this, strength gains always come down to the individual. It could take weeks, months or years depending on yourself and the way you train and eat.

Why does it matter how long it takes to get to that weight?

Good answer. Only thing I can add is to take it easy getting there and don't try to lift more than you are capable of. Causing an injury only serves to set you back weeks, at best, or months of lost time. Sad thing is, when you are hurt and can't lift, you can lose all what you've gained.
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Old 08-07-2011, 06:51 AM   #5
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Default Re: how long does it take to advance shoulder strength to 50kg with 3-5 rep training

i just wanted a idea in your experiences how quickly it takes to progress with 3-5 rep range.

i know experiences will vary but generally how long or often do you get better results find your lifting heavier etc....

doesnt have to be shoulder press can be, bench press, squat, dead lift as long as its 3-5 reps.
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Old 08-07-2011, 08:10 AM   #6
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Default Re: how long does it take to advance shoulder strength to 50kg with 3-5 rep training

do you mean 50kg dumbbells or 50kg in total on the bar

and how heavy and how tall are you?
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Old 08-07-2011, 08:15 AM   #7
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i mean 50kg dumbells each shoulder, so would be 100kg total i guess, im 6 foot 1 and around 170-180lbs
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i mean 50kg dumbells each shoulder, so would be 100kg total i guess, im 6 foot 1 and around 170-180lbs

Like many of the answers you already got, it's such an individual thing from person to person. But here's an example from 2 of my nephews from different fathers.

Nephew 1 is now early 30's. At one time he worked out pretty hard, took Creatine and Whey Protein to gain size and weight. He did so over a years time and picked up his lift totals by about 50 % from where he began.

Nephew 2 is now in his late 20's. He's always been into lifting when playing football in high school and it continued to a lesser degree for several years and he stayed about the same. Within the past 4 years or so, he's taken it to a much higher level. He watches what he eats, takes supplements, works out 4-5 days a week for at least 1 to 1 1/2 hours each time. He works heavy and his progress has been insane. He's now lifting 100%+ over what he started doing when first getting back into the gym. His high bench press is now 450 lbs., He does squats on a machine in the 1000 lb. range. His curls are 150 lbs. on the preacher curl bench.

I've never asked him but in the back of my mind I'm thinking he may have done roids. I hope not because he's always been very concerned about his overall health and with all the info out there about the damage steroids cause, I'd hope he's staying clear of them. The thing that makes me think he's not into roids is he's calm and a very gentle guy and my experience with people on roids is they can be plum ****ing crazy at times with roid rage.
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Old 08-07-2011, 08:30 AM   #9
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you may never get there, if you dedicated your traiing entirely to weight training i would say a couple years, MAYBE... 50kg db is very heavy for shoulder press. I dont know anyone who lifts that weight.
Mate if you can lift 30kg db i would class that person as strong.
If your main training is boxing, i seriously dont think you will get to 50kg db.
Not being negative just my honest opinion

I know guys who have been doing weights for 5-6 years and they cant lift 50kg db and i class them as strong guys.
but people have different strengths, never say never
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