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Old 08-07-2011, 08:38 AM   #1
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Default Top 10 most naturally talented fighters you've ever seen?

The guys that just had it in a way other greats didn't. Who everything came very easy and naturally to, and whose physical abilities allowed them to perform their skills to a very high effect. My top 10 would be something like this:

1. RJJ
2. Ali
3. Pep
4. Jersey Joe Walcott
5. Toney
6. Jack Johnson
7. Hamed
8. SRR
9. SRL
10. Duran

HMs: Loche, Benitez, McCallum, Kalambay (EDIT: Instead of Tyson)

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Old 08-07-2011, 08:49 AM   #2
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tyson and RJJ
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Old 08-07-2011, 08:55 AM   #3
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Benn
Calzaghe
Jones Jr
Nunn
McCallum
Taylor (Meldrick)
Pep
Locche
Ali
Benitez
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RJJ
Toney
Pep
SRR
SRL
Meldrick Taylor
Tyson
Benitez
Ali
Khan
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I remember some amateur footage of Tyson and Teddy Atlas was being asked at ringside whether he would say Tyson was 'a natural' and Atlas said "I wouldn't call him a 'natural'...he doesn't work in the gym like that?". So I'd dare say with Tyson it was a lot of sweat guts and listening
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Old 08-07-2011, 09:14 AM   #6
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I remember some amateur footage of Tyson and Teddy Atlas was being asked at ringside whether he would say Tyson was 'a natural' and Atlas said "I wouldn't call him a 'natural'...he doesn't work in the gym like that?". So I'd dare say with Tyson it was a lot of sweat guts and listening
You may be right. I was thinking hard about Tyson. On one hand he was technically very advanced at a very young age (and also had great physical abilities), but the way he moved always had more a feel of hard drilling than that natural smoothness guys like Benitez, Toney, Ali, Pep, McCallum etc had.
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Thinking about it, I probably put Toney too low. I've heard that the guy only took up boxing in high-school and still he was a world class technician already in his early 20's.
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Benn
Calzaghe
Jones Jr
Nunn
McCallum
Taylor (Meldrick)
Pep
Locche
Ali
Benitez
Graham
yes, i usually sit back and think how benn and calzaghe were much more talented than ali. holy shit.
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yes, i usually sit back and think how benn and calzaghe were much more talented than ali. holy shit.
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ali clearly lacked Calzaghe's iron chin and blinding speed
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The guys that just had it in a way other greats didn't. Who everything came very easy and naturally to, and whose physical abilities allowed them to perform their skills to a very high effect. My top 10 would be something like this:

1. RJJ
2. Ali
3. Pep
4. Jersey Joe Walcott
5. Toney
6. Jack Johnson
7. Hamed
8. SRR
9. SRL
10. Duran

HMs: Loche, Benitez, McCallum, Kalambay (EDIT: Instead of Tyson)
Ray Robinson is rather low. he should be a lock for the top 3. Agree with your Number 1. Robinson never showed the athletic prowessess of Jones
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No order:

Jones
Ali
Robinson
Whitaker
Canzoneri
Louis
Langford
Charles
McLarnin
Tyson
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Ray Robinson is rather low. he should be a lock for the top 3. Agree with your Number 1. Robinson never showed the athletic prowessess of Jones
John Garfield, who watched both men train and fight, had Pep down as the more naturally talented, so that kind of excludes Robinson from the top 3 in my book. That, and that I think that the guys I have in front of him just had more natural smoothness. That's a very subjective thing, though.
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Robinson deserves a top 10 spot either way for incredible use of torque in his single shots and combinations, better at putting together truly heavy shots than any fighter in history with a few exceptions. Pep's lack of hitting ability hurts him here.
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Robinson deserves a top 10 spot either way for incredible use of torque in his single shots and combinations, better at putting together truly heavy shots than any fighter in history with a few exceptions. Pep's lack of hitting ability hurts him here.
Yea, Robinson deserves a top 10 place. His offense was just fantastic. Off the charts, really.
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