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Old 09-28-2012, 02:47 PM   #1
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Default Winky Wright vs Kelly Pavlik (Both versions who fought Taylor)

160lbs.

Who you picking and why?
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Old 09-28-2012, 02:55 PM   #2
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Good one.

I'll take Pavlik. The size, strength, and hitting power advantage would be enough to deal with Winky's clever offense and ATG defense. Don't think Wright could throw enough and keep enough energy for the late rounds against the on coming fighter...
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Old 09-28-2012, 03:00 PM   #3
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First off I'd like to say I scored Wright - Taylor 116-112 for Wright, and I didn't think it was a hard fight to score at all either for that matter.

For me I'm picking Wright. His tight guard would be able to take away the one dimensional offense and power of Pavlik. Then thinking that Winky would have no problem countering with his jabs and crosses to the head and body considering Pavlik's lack of speed and defense.

For me it just comes down to the fact that Pavlik is too one dimensional to beat wright.

Wright makes him look silly. I'd even go as far as saying it'd be as one sided as Wright - Trinidad.

Wright 120-108 Pavlik. Too mobile, too good.
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Old 09-28-2012, 03:01 PM   #4
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Good one.

I'll take Pavlik. The size, strength, and hitting power advantage would be enough to deal with Winky's clever offense and ATG defense. Don't think Wright could throw enough and keep enough energy for the late rounds against the on coming fighter...
It's intreuging. Pavlik is somewhat under-rated these days.

I lean towards Wright, but the size and range of Pavlik makes this really intresting.

If Wright had got the nod over Taylor, then we'd probably of got this next.
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Old 09-28-2012, 03:02 PM   #5
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Wink. It takes a real good combo puncher with speed to give Wink a go in his prime. Even Vargas, who was damned fine was lashing Wright with 5 shot combos and Wright was still able to keep his cool and outbox him.

Wink does the same, and easier. Pavlik doesn't have the speed nor combination punching ability to get to someone like a Wright.
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Old 09-28-2012, 03:06 PM   #6
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See, by that time he wasn't so mobile. It's a real fight, but I think Pavlik would hit hard enough to keep Wright at home. He was putting combinations together and is coming over the top of Wright, which is what you need to do against him...
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Old 09-28-2012, 03:06 PM   #7
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Winky. Too skilled for Pavlik.

Pavlik will have his moments, but he loses a wide UD.
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Old 09-28-2012, 03:07 PM   #8
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Default Re: Winky Wright vs Kelly Pavlik (Both versions who fought Taylor)

I just see it being the Tito fight all over again.
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Old 09-28-2012, 03:29 PM   #9
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Default Re: Winky Wright vs Kelly Pavlik (Both versions who fought Taylor)

Winky. All the Ghost throws is 1-2's... not enough for Wink's D, even with the length and power. Kelly's D is wack - no head or feet movement. Wink counters easily.
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Old 09-28-2012, 03:32 PM   #10
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Winky tends to find rhythm against fighters who can't switch up their pace or gameplan, which is what Pavlik is.

Pavlik would probably find some success trying to bust through the guard with his right hand early but Winky would stay steady, continuously pop his head back with his jab and keep him honest with his right hooks to the body.
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Old 09-28-2012, 03:44 PM   #11
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People confusing todays pavlik with the pavlik who was champion. His game was more than just one twos.
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Old 09-28-2012, 03:46 PM   #12
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Pavlik out boxed Taylor. Pavlik could throw a hundred punches a round back then and we see what Paul Williams did to Winky just on output. Pavlik hits WAY harder than Williams. I really don't care though. Winky had his chance and priced himself out REGARDLESS of what he said about the "lions share". People were thinking Pavlik made 10 mill per fight and Winky was willing to settle for 4 or 5.
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Old 09-28-2012, 05:09 PM   #13
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War Pavlik. Id pick Pav. He wanted WW so bad he would have walked thru hell to hit him.
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Old 09-28-2012, 06:17 PM   #14
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Default Re: Winky Wright vs Kelly Pavlik (Both versions who fought Taylor)

Styles make fight, Winky schools him all day
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Old 09-28-2012, 06:22 PM   #15
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Winky has a nasty habit of covering up and letting fights get away from him. That said, he performed remarkably well against a Light Heavyweight Bernard Hopkins who is much better than Pavlik so I don't think Kelly's size will come into play, neither will the double jab which isn't going to **** Winky's game up at all. I'll take wright 8-4 or 7-5. He's just technically superior and that will give Pavlik all kinds of problems.
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