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Old 08-29-2011, 10:31 AM   #31
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Surely jimmy young would unleash every ounce of his flat top fury against weak, slow Joe Louis. And as an inferior finisher to George Foreman and Shavers surely Louis would have a ghost of a chance against the ultimate black hole boxing technique of young. float like a butterfly, sting infrequently
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Old 08-29-2011, 11:00 AM   #32
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Chris Byrd would have won all the fights Jimmy Young won and half of the ones Young lost.
No. Young always was a better fighter then Byrd in his prime.
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Old 08-29-2011, 11:05 AM   #33
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No. Young always was a better fighter then Byrd in his prime.
Exactly! Young could resist the urge to punch-that inability is what always held Byrd back from maturing as a pro, Dude. That's called "mental fortitude". If that were Young against Vitali, he'd have just dodged, countered once a round, maybe half a time. He wouldn't have gotten the decision. But we'd have all known he should have. That's what makes a champion.
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Old 08-29-2011, 11:08 AM   #34
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Yeah, I know. Byrd threw all those-ugh-punches. It's so disgusting to watch amateurish tendencies like throwing-ew-punches. That's NOT how you box! You box by throwing the least possible punches you can. That's why Jimmy was robbed at least 19 times. Judges don't know shit about boxing. Boxing is like golf. It's the lowest score you want. That's art.



Why wonder? He didn't open up on Ali's corpse. He would certainly open up like a coked up hell-beast with rabies on one of the greatest offensive forces that ever lived. It'd almost be stupid for him not to.

well when you put it like that it's hard to argue
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Old 08-29-2011, 11:09 AM   #35
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mumble young maaaaaan, mumble!
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Old 08-29-2011, 11:15 AM   #36
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Exactly! Young could resist the urge to punch-that inability is what always held Byrd back from maturing as a pro, Dude. That's called "mental fortitude". If that were Young against Vitali, he'd have just dodged, countered once a round, maybe half a time. He wouldn't have gotten the decision. But we'd have all known he should have. That's what makes a champion.
bang on post. this is why jimmy's young "actual" record isn't really discussed. what matters isn't winning, it's making the other guy look bad. jimmy was a MASTER at that. belts, records...accomplishments? These are for chumps
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Chris Byrd would have won all the fights Jimmy Young won and half of the ones Young lost.
Byrd would have gotten flattened by George Foreman..he didn't have the phantom-like defensive abilities that Young possesed.
Ike Ibeabuchi would have been so flustered and flummoxed by Young that would have tried to rape one of the Round Card Girls or even the ring announcer after the decision was read. Young would have beaten him with the same dispatch that he handled Foreman and Lyle with. Ike's head would have exploded from frustration..he may have even gotten disqualified for trying to use his stool to clobber Young with.
Wlad Klitschko may have been...may have been...able to win a decision over Young, but never would he have poleaxed him like he did Byrd.
Byrd had fast hands and that southpaw style, but nothing approaching the defensive wizardry that Young possesed, and his chin was decidedly inferior to Young's.
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Old 08-29-2011, 11:29 AM   #38
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Byrd would have gotten flattened by George Foreman..he didn't have the phantom-like defensive abilities that Young possesed.
Ike Ibeabuchi would have been so flustered and flummoxed by Young that would have tried to rape one of the Round Card Girls or even the ring announcer after the decision was read. Young would have beaten him with the same dispatch that he handled Foreman and Lyle with. Ike's head would have exploded from frustration..he may have even gotten disqualified for trying to use his stool to clobber Young with.
Wlad Klitschko may have been...may have been...able to win a decision over Young, but never would he have poleaxed him like he did Byrd.
Byrd had fast hands and that southpaw style, but nothing approaching the defensive wizardry that Young possesed, and his chin was decidedly inferior to Young's.

THAT'S NOT FAIR AT ALL, RED! ...You and I both know Ike would've tried to rape one of those Round Card Girls, regardless.
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THAT'S NOT FAIR AT ALL, RED! ...You and I both know Ike would've tried to rape one of those Round Card Girls, regardless.
..Win or lose!!
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You know what Chris Byrd wouldn't do? Go 0 for 2 against Ossie Ocasio.
If you have ever watched those fights you know Ocasio didn't really win.
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If you have ever watched those fights you know Ocasio didn't really win.
Don't try to tell him the truth.
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Old 08-29-2011, 12:28 PM   #42
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Foreman was mind****ed and dehydrated and would have lost to any decent mover that night. I know you're going to try to pretend George was 100% for that fight, but the dude fell down blabbering and hallucinating and seeing Jesus afterward, and it wasn't because Young concussed him with his mighty blows.

Young throws 1/10th of Ibeabuchi's punch output and loses 100-90 on every card in the world except yours, going the distance only because he never bothers to engage.

You know what Chris Byrd wouldn't do? Go 0 for 2 against Ossie Ocasio.
Young would outclass Ike and you know it.
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Old 08-29-2011, 01:01 PM   #43
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Here's one for you Red Cobra. I'll take the Brown Bomber via KO anytime after the 9th.
This is the Young who lost to Chuck Gardner?
I see two possible scenarios here, Louis gets dsq'd for hitting Young while Young is out of the ring,or Young gets dsq'd for being out ,instead of in the ring.
If a fat, disinterested ,untrained,near 34 year old Ali could make Young put his body through the ropes in evasive action, Joe Louis should be able to make him actually jump out of the ring ,similar to those bulls who jump the barrier to avoid the Matador.
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God where's Boxed with that "Fantasy Record: 56-0" image of his?
I'm always here with it, in spirit, my brother.

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Old 08-29-2011, 01:04 PM   #45
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God where's Boxed with that "Fantasy Record: 56-0" image of his?
That doesn't matter. I'm talking about individual fights. If you have watched those fights which you haven't you wouldn't be saying that.
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