Roy Jones on MMA and Boxing - Page 2

USMCGixxer6 · 07-03-2007, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Doppleganger

Actually RJJ is a knock-out artist. He had chilling power at 160 and say he was fighting at the WW limit in the UFC he'd knock guys out if he was to catch them perfectly. So I'd give it a little higher than 3% myself.

once again, that guy is very ignorant

im sure he probably thinks that the best hands in MMA could probably outbox a boxer in a boxing match as well.
For the record though, what would Rampages %chance in a boxing match against a top cruiserweight or even LHW?

ufoalf · 07-03-2007, 05:29 PM

lol. USMCG i gave you a benefit of the doubt 2nd time. My mistake. Anyways, Did i ever say MMA will outbox a boxer? No. Its sad you even have to suggest that because there's absolutely nothing in what i've EVER said that would suggest such a thing.
I'm ignorant? Listen, i understand you're not the sharpest tool in the shed but again you can't compare UFC pride and WBO, WBC etc. You obviously have no clue what you're talking about because you keep bringing up Hendy vs Ramp. Both Hendy and Ramp are now UFC fighters, they BOTH have UFC contract. The belt Hendy owns right now is pretty much obsolete. He IS Pride champion but UFC owns Pride. I HIGHLY doubt Hendy is gona be fighting in a ring against another Pride contender. Such cross org championship fighting is happening ONLY now.

Dopple, RJJ was only powerful 160, he did have KO's later in the career but less. You have to understand that TKO's don't count when we're talking about 1 punch lights out. He was very agile and fast but he did not have KO power. Tyson had KO power lol, i'll give you that. Tyson would probably get 1 out of 10 take down attempts a KO. You have to understand that 1 out of 10 is a HUGE number for what we're talking about. There are many coefficients that lessen that number.

ufoalf · 07-03-2007, 05:43 PM

ROFL, i came across this randomly right after i posted above. Here's what USMC thinks is gona happen when a boxer steps in the cage. Boxer on the right, MMAist on on the left...

http://img1.nnm.ru/imagez/gallery/d/...f8765_full.jpg

jk jk, chill out.

oblate · 07-03-2007, 07:16 PM

wow props to roy. very objective and intellegent stuff he was saying.

USMCGixxer6 · 07-03-2007, 08:42 PM

so Hendo has two Pride belts will be a UFC figther but yet he gets to keep both his Pride belts? hrmm seems kind of odd, maybe its because he is Zuffa fighter, not a UFC fighter. What about Fedor fighting in bodog with his Pride HW title, yet my point. Ignoramous

USMCGixxer6 · 07-03-2007, 08:45 PM

I guess Zuffa owns Bodog then? Stupid fuck. UFC doesnt own shit, its the ferritas and Zuffa, keep talking out of your ass. Your stupid fucking ass probably thinks Dana White is the owner of the UFC

ufoalf · 07-03-2007, 09:48 PM

Keep your insults to yourself, especially with little knowledge you have.
Zuffa owns both UFC and Pride. Its pretty sad that i have to point out that when i say UFC owns pride, i mean that Zuffa owns them. Dana White is a president of UFC and a large co-owner of Zuffa. My point was that Pride and UFC are same entity, sorry i couldn't have been more clear for you.

With Fedor contract it DIRECTLY SAID that he is ALLOWED to fight in other organizations with few conditions. He will probably also have similar agreement on his UFC contract. If you need to learn anything else, just ask, no need to turn this into sherdog.

USMCGixxer6 · 07-03-2007, 11:18 PM

Fedor wont be able to do shit but maybe Sambo competitions if he signs with the UFC, so my point is, Fedor isnt the world HW champ, hes just the Pride champ. As with Couture in the UFC. Just like boxing has different champs in differerent sanctioning bodies. This isnt MMA vs Boxing, im just saying that MMA has some of the same probs as boxing does, just on a smaller scale. Stupid ASS mainstream UFC fans dont realize this because they dont know anything outside of the UFC for MMA

With the new news that Hendo will keep the Pride belts regardless, if gives me hope that might try and save PRide

ufoalf · 07-03-2007, 11:29 PM

I hope they will try to resurrect pride but i highly doubt it. There will be pride shows but all the good fighters will want to fight in UFC or where they'll get a good contract. So, sadly, imo it will never be as it was few years ago.
The same problems will arise in some distant future. Once MMA gets worldwide recognition and Don King kind will want a piece of the pie. w/e We'll see.

USMCGixxer6 · 07-03-2007, 11:33 PM

yeah I agre with you, but im still hoping for the old Pride, just ran a little better, but I doubt it as well

Cobra33 · 07-04-2007, 12:13 AM

Fu#ck off Roy.I remember a couple of years that you wouldn't fight ANYONE.Roy talks the talk but didn't back it p when he was boxing!

Beebs · 07-04-2007, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by USMCGixxer6

Your stupid fucking ass probably thinks Dana White is the owner of the UFC

Actually, he owns some amount of it, less than a third, but he was still one of the original investors, it isn't just owned by Ferrittas.

USMCGixxer6 · 07-04-2007, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Beebs

Actually, he owns some amount of it, less than a third, but he was still one of the original investors, it isn't just owned by Ferrittas.

he has a 10% share, I know that. I meant it as in that Dana is the sole or the majority owner

Beebs · 07-04-2007, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by USMCGixxer6

he has a 10% share, I know that. I meant it as in that Dana is the sole or the majority owner

Just pointing it out, but I was actually curious what the share was.

USMCGixxer6 · 07-04-2007, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Beebs

Just pointing it out, but I was actually curious what the share was.

I should say ive heard its 10%, so it might indeed be different. 10% makes sense though, but who really knows.

I cant wait to see Shogun in the octagon

07-03-2007, 05:29 PM	#17
ufoalf Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 5,690 vCash: 1550	Re: Roy Jones on MMA and Boxing lol. USMCG i gave you a benefit of the doubt 2nd time. My mistake. Anyways, Did i ever say MMA will outbox a boxer? No. Its sad you even have to suggest that because there's absolutely nothing in what i've EVER said that would suggest such a thing. I'm ignorant? Listen, i understand you're not the sharpest tool in the shed but again you can't compare UFC pride and WBO, WBC etc. You obviously have no clue what you're talking about because you keep bringing up Hendy vs Ramp. Both Hendy and Ramp are now UFC fighters, they BOTH have UFC contract. The belt Hendy owns right now is pretty much obsolete. He IS Pride champion but UFC owns Pride. I HIGHLY doubt Hendy is gona be fighting in a ring against another Pride contender. Such cross org championship fighting is happening ONLY now. Dopple, RJJ was only powerful 160, he did have KO's later in the career but less. You have to understand that TKO's don't count when we're talking about 1 punch lights out. He was very agile and fast but he did not have KO power. Tyson had KO power lol, i'll give you that. Tyson would probably get 1 out of 10 take down attempts a KO. You have to understand that 1 out of 10 is a HUGE number for what we're talking about. There are many coefficients that lessen that number.
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07-03-2007, 05:43 PM	#18
ufoalf Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 5,690 vCash: 1550	Re: Roy Jones on MMA and Boxing ROFL, i came across this randomly right after i posted above. Here's what USMC thinks is gona happen when a boxer steps in the cage. Boxer on the right, MMAist on on the left... http://img1.nnm.ru/imagez/gallery/d/...f8765_full.jpg jk jk, chill out. Last edited by Healy; 02-14-2006 at 10:30 AM.
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07-03-2007, 07:16 PM	#19
oblate Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 538 vCash: 1000	Re: Roy Jones on MMA and Boxing wow props to roy. very objective and intellegent stuff he was saying.
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07-03-2007, 08:42 PM	#20
USMCGixxer6 Journeyman ESB Jr Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Yuma, AZ Posts: 182 vCash: 1000	Re: Roy Jones on MMA and Boxing so Hendo has two Pride belts will be a UFC figther but yet he gets to keep both his Pride belts? hrmm seems kind of odd, maybe its because he is Zuffa fighter, not a UFC fighter. What about Fedor fighting in bodog with his Pride HW title, yet my point. Ignoramous
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07-03-2007, 08:45 PM	#21
USMCGixxer6 Journeyman ESB Jr Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Yuma, AZ Posts: 182 vCash: 1000	Re: Roy Jones on MMA and Boxing I guess Zuffa owns Bodog then? Stupid fuck. UFC doesnt own shit, its the ferritas and Zuffa, keep talking out of your ass. Your stupid fucking ass probably thinks Dana White is the owner of the UFC
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07-03-2007, 09:48 PM	#22
ufoalf Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 5,690 vCash: 1550	Re: Roy Jones on MMA and Boxing Keep your insults to yourself, especially with little knowledge you have. Zuffa owns both UFC and Pride. Its pretty sad that i have to point out that when i say UFC owns pride, i mean that Zuffa owns them. Dana White is a president of UFC and a large co-owner of Zuffa. My point was that Pride and UFC are same entity, sorry i couldn't have been more clear for you. With Fedor contract it DIRECTLY SAID that he is ALLOWED to fight in other organizations with few conditions. He will probably also have similar agreement on his UFC contract. If you need to learn anything else, just ask, no need to turn this into sherdog.
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07-03-2007, 11:18 PM	#23
USMCGixxer6 Journeyman ESB Jr Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Yuma, AZ Posts: 182 vCash: 1000	Re: Roy Jones on MMA and Boxing Fedor wont be able to do shit but maybe Sambo competitions if he signs with the UFC, so my point is, Fedor isnt the world HW champ, hes just the Pride champ. As with Couture in the UFC. Just like boxing has different champs in differerent sanctioning bodies. This isnt MMA vs Boxing, im just saying that MMA has some of the same probs as boxing does, just on a smaller scale. Stupid ASS mainstream UFC fans dont realize this because they dont know anything outside of the UFC for MMA With the new news that Hendo will keep the Pride belts regardless, if gives me hope that might try and save PRide
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07-03-2007, 11:29 PM	#24
ufoalf Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 5,690 vCash: 1550	Re: Roy Jones on MMA and Boxing I hope they will try to resurrect pride but i highly doubt it. There will be pride shows but all the good fighters will want to fight in UFC or where they'll get a good contract. So, sadly, imo it will never be as it was few years ago. The same problems will arise in some distant future. Once MMA gets worldwide recognition and Don King kind will want a piece of the pie. w/e We'll see.
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07-03-2007, 11:33 PM	#25
USMCGixxer6 Journeyman ESB Jr Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Yuma, AZ Posts: 182 vCash: 1000	Re: Roy Jones on MMA and Boxing yeah I agre with you, but im still hoping for the old Pride, just ran a little better, but I doubt it as well
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07-04-2007, 12:13 AM	#26
Cobra33 Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,403 vCash: 1000	Re: Roy Jones on MMA and Boxing Fu#ck off Roy.I remember a couple of years that you wouldn't fight ANYONE.Roy talks the talk but didn't back it p when he was boxing!
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